> Graham Motzing Wrote:
> basically the only reason shit ever gets 'better' in china is because of
> pressure from export buyers, or for internal sale. the 4 strokes have
> gotten really good because of compaines like SSR and the domestic market
> have made big investments in improving them. Maybe an importer that
> actually gives a shit would push for some qc and improvements on one of
> these motors, but the starting point is so far behind... they are almost
> like a 50's postwar european design.
This is an important point, they're not bad because theyre made in china, theyre bad because theyre cheap. and in order to make em as cheap as possible they get made in china, and made with shitty or no QC, and cheap materials, and no development. If someone decided to have em made in china and made well, no reason you couldn't but nobody would buy it cuz the people buyin that shit want the cheapness. Though maybe the one you're lookin at is the half-decent version made for people who don't want full on bargain bin trash.
> There are motors like this, the polini's and the cobra/
> morini/minarelli's and stuff, that are made for the kiddie
> dirt/pocketbike market, that have modern tech and really ripppppp. if
> you wanted to do a project with something like that, it would make a
> sensible starting point, they are knocked off like crazy in china, and
> the companies that import them give a shit about QC because people race
> them and spend real money on them.
I used a morini s6 on another build, outta the box 50mph 50cc and fucking screamin fast to get there. it was rad. DeNardis sells complete engine kit clone versions from china but theyre totally legit, but more like 600 bucks vs under 100. the watercooled ones reportedly make over 10hp for as-recieved single speed 50cc 2 stroke. those have a centrifugal clutch too, and it's SUUUUUPER tunable with huge parts support since it's basically the #1 engine for little kids racing dirtbikes.