Re: California Registration, no paper work, plates...

That's correct. There is no expiration date.

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Thomas Lennard /

Thanks Jake

Is that because it is a moped? And if it were a scooter or bigger bike then I would have then been given tags?

Re: California Registration, no paper work, plates...

Yup. If it doesn't qualify as a moped, you have to register it as a motorcycle, or a motor-driven cycle if it's under 150ccs.

Then you get stickers and a yearly registration.

Mopeds just get the plate and lifetime registration.

If you ever sell it, make sure you include the signed over registration, or a bill of sale if you lose the paperwork, otherwise it's a big hassle to get it registered for the buyer.

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> baird co Wrote:

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> Mopeds just get the plate and lifetime registration.

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I guess California figures Mopeds won't last much more than a year ???

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I dunno, but the registration does. Sent in the forms for my carabela and got a letter back saying it was already registered to somebody.

The girl I got it from got it from her shop teacher in high school as a summer project. Someone donated it to the school. The girl is in her late 20's. So the bike is still registered to someone from over ten years ago.

But I just had to send in a statement of facts saying where I got it. I also sent this picture. My new plate is on the way.

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Dave Thacker /

Do you have to be a resident of California to get this magical lifetime plate and registration?

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Technically, yes. Now, if a person happened to have a friend or an address in ca they could use, they could hypothetically have the registration and plate sent there, and the remailed to wherever they wanted, but only some unscrupulous person would consider breaking the law like that, and I'm definitely not recommending anyone try such a dishonest thing.

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no groms no blasters /

you don't have to be a resident of californa.

you just have to have an address in california where the moped lives.

then you just tell the dmv your mailing/residence address.

it's your state that cares whether or not you're paying taxes to fund roads there, not California.

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Johnnie Walner /

In the dmv handbook it states any class of licences for a motorized bicycle or moped capable of no more than 30 mph : a two or three wheel vehiclal capable no more of 30 mph on level ground and equipped witha fully operative pedals for human propulsion or having no peddals if powerd soley by electrical energy, a motor producing less than 4 gross brake horsepower and an automatic transmission

Page 4 of the dmv motorcycle handbook 3rd row down on fourth page.

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That is a gray area. The new laws in 2020 specifically state that you do NOT need insurance for mopeds, but some literature states you need an m1 or m2 License still whereas others state that you may operate one without it. I’m trying to get official clarification on this. The ride share scooter companies pushed legislation changing and complicating the laws, and mopeds are getting somewhat lumped in and blurred in to electric scoots and motorized bikes. The no special license needed thing is more than likely pertaining to just rental/ride share scoots that you operate for 48 hours or less at a time.

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Here's a new one, too:

Speeding in Excess of 30 mph—A moped capable of attaining speeds in excess of 30 mph is subject to registration as a motor-driven cycle (motorcycle). A registration application and the required fees must be submitted if a moped operator is cited for speeds in excess of 30 mph. Fees become due upon first operation after modification of the moped to increase its speed to more than 30 mph.

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Yeah we technically all need to register as motorcycles now...even my Batavus does more than 30mph. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Seems they want every last nickle they can get .

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