Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

This has been a hobby of mine since I was about 12.These are my finds from the last year.I always wait until I get a bunch and them give donate them to the occaneechi Indians here whose ancestors made them.

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Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

Aaron Ward /

Check your quarters, West Point.

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Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

Saabsonette guy- I know this thread was a couple of years ago, but finding great old stuff of any kind has always fascinated me. Those cut up horse shoes you found were cut up and used to shoe cattle. Cattle that were trained to work and pull plows or wagons or turn mills were referred to as oxen. Usually big steers. Because they walked many more miles and worked harder than cattle who just grazed, their cloven hooves had to be shod for the same reason horses' hooves did. Because they would wear down too soon, and they would become tender footed and lame and you would have to lay off until their hooves grew out again. Pre-made oxen shoes are of a more refined shape, but having none available, they simply heated and cut up horse shoes, hence the tapered points at the tip and having to cut off the end, because they would have been too long. Dude, you found a cache of OXEN shoes. Incredibly cool, and harder to come by. I have a pair that were never used. I'll go out in the shop tomorrow and photograph them and show you how manufactured ones differed, but they were making do. Very interesting find ! Mule shoes are shaped differently than horse shoes. Mules' hooves are narrower and longer front to back, and mules usually had caulks ( cleats ) at the heels and toes for added traction while plowing ground.

What a fascinating thread !!!!

Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

Oxen ( cattle ) shoes. Note the caulks ( cleats ) for added traction. See why I think your fabulous finds were home made oxen shoes ?

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> Trudy Fair Wrote:

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> Oxen ( cattle ) shoes. Note the caulks ( cleats ) for added traction.

> See why I think your fabulous finds were home made oxen shoes ?

So since you are the resident shoe expert what is this giant shoe I found. The small one is a regular sized shoe.

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That sir, is a rear shoe from a Belgian or Clydesdale or Percheron or some other heavy horse ( draft - very large work horse ). The reason I know it's a rear shoe is because of the squared off toe. This is done so they don't forge - forge means overstep with the back foot and catch the

heel of the front shoe and either pull it off, or nick the back of the front foot. Notice the caulks

on the heels for traction, and also the clip on the toe to help keep it in position. Heavy horses are notoriously difficult to keep shod properly. There is an absurd amount of weight on those feet to begin with, and they're trained to be high steppers because it looks pretty effin cool, so the extra pounding is an added detriment to the notoriously bad hooves. The genetic tinkering was able to produce some giants but apparently the hoof quality didn't quite keep up. Heavy horse farriers are specialists. So you have a rear heavy horse shoe. Great find !!!! I bet there are trace chains or harness bits there, too.

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Oh yeah, and see how the caulks in the back raise the heel, which would push the toe forward in the shoe ? That's another reason for the clip in the front. Otherwise, just the weight and repetitive pounding would tear that shoe off pretty quickly. Weigh that shoe and see if the 85 refers to ounces. Usually shoe sizes are stamped on them. Either with a number or a couple of dots made with a punch. Two for a size 2, etc. It may have started out as an 85 ounce shoe before being modified. The weight thing is a guess, but that's a lot of iron, so it might be close. A normal size Quarter Horse would wear a 1 or 2 size shoe. I don't know how heavy horse shoes are sized. It may be 85 is a size.

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Because, you see, there’s horsepower - and then there’s

HORSEPOWER.

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Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

One more then I’ll shut up. You may have a mule shoe there as a reference. It’s more oblong shaped than a horse shoe. The one on the left was never used, it is how they come. The one on the right was. See how it was shaped to fit his foot? All shoes have to be shaped to fit the horse’s hoof, each individually. It’s a real art. Horse shoes are more round - mule shoes are very oblong.

Both sides of a shoe to show wear of a worn vs unworn shoe.

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Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

Also found this aluminium shoe. Have no idea why its aluminum? Also have this one on the back of my big bike.

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Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

The aluminum shoe is a racing plate. Aluminum because every ounce counts on the track.

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I’m such a knob. The top photo of the two shoes is flipped. In the top one, the unused show is on the right. Duh........the one that has been fitted and used is the more rounded. You don’t have to heat them up to fit them, just an anvil and a hammer. A small sledge. The hammer used for setting nails is light.

Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

Cool info, thanks.

Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

What kinda rocks are these?

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Looks like just rocks to me, the high amount of iron does suggest they are from the Jura mountains in the south of Germany.

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Well, these here are African rocks. Cuz I’m in Africa.

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> Bas Autowas Wrote:

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> Looks like just rocks to me, the high amount of iron does suggest they

> are from the Jura mountains in the south of Germany.

Damn ditch digger you didnt answer that right either..no wonder you got fired from ditch digging..hell.i could have answered that simple quiz (edited)

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The white rock looks a lot like flint.

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> Well, these here are African rocks. Cuz I’m in Africa.

I'm not a geologist so all i could do was make an educated guess ;)

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> Bas Autowas Wrote:

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> > Well, these here are African rocks. Cuz I’m in Africa.

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> I'm not a geologist so all i could do was make an uneducated guess ;) actually i am not intelligent at all

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Oh sad sad sloppy. You fail to even speak one language coherently yet you think you have the right to judge someone's intelligence?

Go cry to the nurse when she changes your diaper pathetic maggot food.

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> Bas Autowas Wrote:

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> Oh sad sad sloppy. You fail to even speak one language coherently yet

> you think you have the right to judge someone's intelligence?

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> Go cry to the nurse when she changes your diaper pathetic maggot food.

I hate to agree bas but i guess you are right..you should not judge some one for something they are not responsible for or don't have .i do appolgise and am truly sorry i judged you..

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Sad sloppy, please learn your own fucking language before you make bad attempts at insulting someone.

Right now your illiterate ramblings only make you look foolish.

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> Papa _ Wrote:

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> What kinda rocks are these?

The ones that used to be inside pop's head?

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> Bas Autowas Wrote:

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> Sad sloppy, please learn your own fucking language before you make bad

> attempts at insulting someone.

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> Right now your illiterate ramblings only make you look foolish.

Bas i guess living with the goats in goat country you feel intelligent.i do want to explain to you that stealing the m&m's from the goats as you think you are is not out smarting the goats.they don't care bas.those are not m&m's bas.those little round pills are goat shit bas.spit it out ...

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> > Sad sloppy, please learn your own fucking language before you make bad

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> Bas i guess living with the goats in goat country you feel intelligent.i

> do want to explain to you that stealing the m&m's from the goats as you

> think you are is not out smarting the goats.they don't care bas.those

> are not m&m's bas.those little round pills are goat shit bas.spit it out

> ...

You really are making yourself look bad.

Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

Pinnochio there is one way for you to really know how i look ..

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> Pinnochio there is one way for you to really know how i look ..

That would be for you to give me an address fool.

Re: Interesting stuff you found. (Archaeology, Metal Detecting,Fossils, Etc)

Here's a plate from 1891-1893.

and a few drill chucks, moulding plane blade, machinist surface gage, tap, gas valve, saw blade, etc.

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> live ɘvil Wrote:

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> > Pinnochio there is one way for you to really know how i look ..

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> That would be for you to give me an address fool.

You have ben told about that too many times chickenshit..don-t try to make yourself look good keeping on with that..

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