Re: Car for moped prices...

^^Sounds like you lost your ass with all those Cadillacs!

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Andrew Squiggman /

> Thomas Davis Wrote:

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> Looks like my time to shine.

>

> 1982 Camaro, had some rust, needed a distributor cap, $114 on ebay, no

> reserve and they misspelled Chevrolet

>

> 1979 Coupe DeVille- Beat up, but ran great $300

>

> 1978 Sedan DeVille- Engine missed, had rust, but I drove it for years to

> college, $400

>

> 1979 Sedan Deville- Ran great, cold a/c, door jamb had a rust hole, $600

>

> 1985 Ford Crown Victoria, needed a fuel pump, $300

>

> 1991 Oldsmobile 88- Ran good, needed headliner, $500

>

> 1994 Oldsmobile 98- Low miles, looks good, needed ecm, water pump, $400

> - Current Car-

>

> 1991- Pontiac Bonneville, needed a battery, ran good, eventually needed

> new A/C compressor, $500

>

> 2001 Buick lesabre- $600- Vacuum hose disconnected, plugged it back and

> it ran great, had dents and dings, nothing too bad

>

> 1997- Cadillac $600 DeVille Concours- Needed a hood and radiator- looked

> great

>

> 1993 Buick Century - 3.3Liter, torque converter solenoid went out, I

> unplugged the connection, and it ran great, no more lock up torque

> converter function.

>

> 2005- Ford Crown Vic P71 - $700 Needed Battery

>

> 1988 Cadillac Brougham- $500- 40k miles on it, needed paint and new top-

> rand great

I’m guessing you must currently be at least 80 years old by those selections.

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> Ron Duggles Wrote:

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> > Thomas Davis Wrote:

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> > Looks like my time to shine.

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> >

>

> > 1982 Camaro, had some rust, needed a distributor cap, $114 on ebay, no

>

> > reserve and they misspelled Chevrolet

>

> >

>

> > 1979 Coupe DeVille- Beat up, but ran great $300

>

> >

>

> > 1978 Sedan DeVille- Engine missed, had rust, but I drove it for years

> to

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> > college, $400

>

> >

>

> > 1979 Sedan Deville- Ran great, cold a/c, door jamb had a rust hole,

> $600

>

> >

>

> > 1985 Ford Crown Victoria, needed a fuel pump, $300

>

> >

>

> > 1991 Oldsmobile 88- Ran good, needed headliner, $500

>

> >

>

> > 1994 Oldsmobile 98- Low miles, looks good, needed ecm, water pump,

> $400

>

> > - Current Car-

>

> >

>

> > 1991- Pontiac Bonneville, needed a battery, ran good, eventually

> needed

>

> > new A/C compressor, $500

>

> >

>

> > 2001 Buick lesabre- $600- Vacuum hose disconnected, plugged it back

> and

>

> > it ran great, had dents and dings, nothing too bad

>

> >

>

> > 1997- Cadillac $600 DeVille Concours- Needed a hood and radiator-

> looked

>

> > great

>

> >

>

> > 1993 Buick Century - 3.3Liter, torque converter solenoid went out, I

>

> > unplugged the connection, and it ran great, no more lock up torque

>

> > converter function.

>

> >

>

> > 2005- Ford Crown Vic P71 - $700 Needed Battery

>

> >

>

> > 1988 Cadillac Brougham- $500- 40k miles on it, needed paint and new

> top-

>

> > rand great

>

> I’m guessing you must currently be at least 80 years old by those

> selections.

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> Ron Duggles Wrote:

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> > Thomas Davis Wrote:

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> > -------------------------------------------------------

>

> > Looks like my time to shine.

>

> >

>

> > 1982 Camaro, had some rust, needed a distributor cap, $114 on ebay, no

>

> > reserve and they misspelled Chevrolet

>

> >

>

> > 1979 Coupe DeVille- Beat up, but ran great $300

>

> >

>

> > 1978 Sedan DeVille- Engine missed, had rust, but I drove it for years

> to

>

> > college, $400

>

> >

>

> > 1979 Sedan Deville- Ran great, cold a/c, door jamb had a rust hole,

> $600

>

> >

>

> > 1985 Ford Crown Victoria, needed a fuel pump, $300

>

> >

>

> > 1991 Oldsmobile 88- Ran good, needed headliner, $500

>

> >

>

> > 1994 Oldsmobile 98- Low miles, looks good, needed ecm, water pump,

> $400

>

> > - Current Car-

>

> >

>

> > 1991- Pontiac Bonneville, needed a battery, ran good, eventually

> needed

>

> > new A/C compressor, $500

>

> >

>

> > 2001 Buick lesabre- $600- Vacuum hose disconnected, plugged it back

> and

>

> > it ran great, had dents and dings, nothing too bad

>

> >

>

> > 1997- Cadillac $600 DeVille Concours- Needed a hood and radiator-

> looked

>

> > great

>

> >

>

> > 1993 Buick Century - 3.3Liter, torque converter solenoid went out, I

>

> > unplugged the connection, and it ran great, no more lock up torque

>

> > converter function.

>

> >

>

> > 2005- Ford Crown Vic P71 - $700 Needed Battery

>

> >

>

> > 1988 Cadillac Brougham- $500- 40k miles on it, needed paint and new

> top-

>

> > rand great

>

> I’m guessing you must currently be at least 80 years old by those

> selections.

By that logic we must all be 14

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Andrew Squiggman /

> Thomas Davis Wrote:

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> > Ron Duggles Wrote:

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> > > Thomas Davis Wrote:

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> > > Looks like my time to shine.

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> > > 1982 Camaro, had some rust, needed a distributor cap, $114 on ebay,

> no

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> > > reserve and they misspelled Chevrolet

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> > >

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> > > 1979 Coupe DeVille- Beat up, but ran great $300

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> > > 1978 Sedan DeVille- Engine missed, had rust, but I drove it for

> years

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> > to

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> > > college, $400

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> > >

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> > > 1979 Sedan Deville- Ran great, cold a/c, door jamb had a rust hole,

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> > $600

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> > > 1985 Ford Crown Victoria, needed a fuel pump, $300

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> > > 1991 Oldsmobile 88- Ran good, needed headliner, $500

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> >

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> > >

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> > > 1994 Oldsmobile 98- Low miles, looks good, needed ecm, water pump,

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> > $400

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> >

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> > > - Current Car-

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> >

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> > >

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> >

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> > > 1991- Pontiac Bonneville, needed a battery, ran good, eventually

>

> > needed

>

> >

>

> > > new A/C compressor, $500

>

> >

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> > >

>

> >

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> > > 2001 Buick lesabre- $600- Vacuum hose disconnected, plugged it back

>

> > and

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> >

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> > > it ran great, had dents and dings, nothing too bad

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

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> > > 1997- Cadillac $600 DeVille Concours- Needed a hood and radiator-

>

> > looked

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> >

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> > > great

>

> >

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> > >

>

> >

>

> > > 1993 Buick Century - 3.3Liter, torque converter solenoid went out, I

>

> >

>

> > > unplugged the connection, and it ran great, no more lock up torque

>

> >

>

> > > converter function.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > 2005- Ford Crown Vic P71 - $700 Needed Battery

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

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> > > 1988 Cadillac Brougham- $500- 40k miles on it, needed paint and new

>

> > top-

>

> >

>

> > > rand great

>

> >

>

> > I’m guessing you must currently be at least 80 years old by those

>

> > selections.

>

> By that logic we must all be 14

Like seriously a complete collection of America’s worst cars from the worst decades. But that is why you got them cheap, well, top dollar really.

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Duggy said:`Like seriously a complete collection of America’s worst cars from the worst decades. But that is why you got them cheap, well, top dollar really.'

Shows what YOU know. LOL! I could take that 85 Ford and That 05 Ford and keep them forever. GREAT CARS!

Also those Buicks listed weren't bad,either.

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Duggy is retarded

The Cadillac big blocks were some of the greatest engines ever built. They had an exhaust heated intake manifold (No coolant leaks) distributor located in the front, and an external oil pump.

They came with the the Turbo 400 transmission, which is one of the best automatics in the world, Rolls Royce, Ferrari, and Jaguar used them, but Duggy thinks they're trash, lol

I also had several cars with the venerable Buick 3800 V6, and the 3300 derivative.

The Camaro had a Chevrolet small block, once again not Duggy approved.

The Fords I owned were solid, with a 302 in one, and a 4.6 in the other.

My 1997 Cadillac DeVille Concours did have the lotus designed northstar with 300hp to the wheels, at the time I owned it it was impressive, not so much now. I did sell it quickly and made a great profit.

To the haters:

Duggy you branding me as someone who has the taste of an 80yr old while hanging out on a moped forum is reatrded, and you obviously don't know shit about old American cars.

To Seth B, I didn't lose my ass, how could you? The cars cost me less than what most people spend on one monthly payment + full coverage insurance, and they needed very little work, other than cosmetics.

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Donnie pay your cable bill we need more Fox updates

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> Thomas Davis Wrote:

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> Duggy is retarded

>

> The Cadillac big blocks were some of the greatest engines ever built.

> They had an exhaust heated intake manifold (No coolant leaks)

> distributor located in the front, and an external oil pump.

>

> They came with the the Turbo 400 transmission, which is one of the best

> automatics in the world, Rolls Royce, Ferrari, and Jaguar used them, but

> Duggy thinks they're trash, lol

>

> I also had several cars with the venerable Buick 3800 V6, and the 3300

> derivative.

>

> The Camaro had a Chevrolet small block, once again not Duggy approved.

>

> The Fords I owned were solid, with a 302 in one, and a 4.6 in the other.

>

> My 1997 Cadillac DeVille Concours did have the lotus designed northstar

> with 300hp to the wheels, at the time I owned it it was impressive, not

> so much now. I did sell it quickly and made a great profit.

>

> To the haters:

>

> Duggy you branding me as someone who has the taste of an 80yr old while

> hanging out on a moped forum is reatrded, and you obviously don't know

> shit about old American cars.

>

> To Seth B, I didn't lose my ass, how could you? The cars cost me less

> than what most people spend on one monthly payment + full coverage

> insurance, and they needed very little work, other than cosmetics.

^ I have to agree with most of this, exception being the Northstar, those were pretty craptacular. The rest were all decent cars, and like you I love the idea of no car payment! Unfortunately where I live those really old ones are getting harder and harder to find. Turbo 400, FTW. Really all depends what your desires/expectations of a vehicle are, mine are simply to get me there and back safely, and it does not hurt to bw able to do some work on them yourself if you choose.

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But Cadillac got sued for putting 350 Oldsmobile engines in Cadillacs

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^ converted 350 diesels. Blew head gaskets every 40k or so.

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> ^ I have to agree with most of this, exception being the Northstar,

> those were pretty craptacular. The rest were all decent cars, and like

> you I love the idea of no car payment! Unfortunately where I live those

> really old ones are getting harder and harder to find. Turbo 400, FTW.

> Really all depends what your desires/expectations of a vehicle are, mine

> are simply to get me there and back safely, and it does not hurt to bw

> able to do some work on them yourself if you choose.

I agree, that's why I sold the car so quickly. I made some decent cash and moved on. I would never own a 4.1, 4.5, 4.9, or 4.6 Northstar for any length of time. I also have always known to steer clear of the olds diesels.

Ya, my expectations for a car is to get me where I need to go without breaking down, and to have a/c and heat. The climate control system on the old caddys are very simple to work on, the evaporator is on the firewall and the compressor is right on top of the intake.

Only an idiot would think they were bad cars.Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/18 03:10PM by tomd4091.

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I enjoy cars differently.

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^ Most people do, nothing wrong with that.

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> Stephen Keller Wrote:

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> ^ converted 350 diesels. Blew head gaskets every 40k or so.

no it wasn't the diesel Fiasco they actually put the gas Oldsmobile engine in The Cadillacs.

And I know all about the Oldsmobile diesels I worked on them for 7 years when I worked at the dealership.

they did pretty damn good by 1981/82 they had just about all the bugs out of them.

I had to replace many of motors and many blocks due to the fact that mechanics previous to me had to use are grinding wheels with a course disc to clean up the block surface which basically took Material off are the O-ring on the head gasket with sit on the Block.

But after three injector changes.

And nodular cast iron crankshaft,

Redesigning the Piston three times,

Using Fel-Pro blue head gaskets,

3rd Generation head bolts or studs,

Brass Governor Rings instead of that plastic thing took the pump out in 50,000,

Aftermarket rocker arms,

Upgraded oil pump shaft, beryllium copper driven gear on vacuum pump which drives the oil pump, replace the Rope rear main with a Ford 390 rear main seal, 2nd design flexplate less prone to cracking, furnace brazed torque converters for the Transmissions so they wouldn't disintegrate from vibration, 2nd design roller cam shaft, a good aftermarket water separator and Prime Pump, and a few modifications to the DB2 Rosa master injector pump.

They ran quite well and we're pretty Dependable at that point and would get 36 miles to the gallon cruising 75,

But The Cadillacs got lower gearing so they got shity mileage like 28 on a good day.

These motors were designed to have Peak torque at 1250 RPMs,Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/18 03:37PM by all_hail_sean.

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The last ones were not too bad, but they could have saved a fortune just designing a diesel in the first place, but it was too strange having a fleetwood sitting there sounding like a semi truck. :D People must have gotten over caring "whose' engine was in a car at the end as the 307. 305 and 350 were across all rwd platfoms before they were phased out.Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/18 03:38PM by keller_stephen.

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> Stephen Keller Wrote:

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> The last ones were not too bad, but they could have saved a fortune just

> designing a diesel in the first place, but it was too strange having a

> fleetwood sitting there sounding like a semi truck. :D People must have

> gotten over caring "whose' engine was in a car at the end as the 307.

> 305 and 350 were across all rwd platfoms before they were phased out.

well they did that stupid V6 diesel thing God I'm so glad I'd left the dealership when those things started coming in for warranty issue.

I worked on all the 6.2 diesel and prior to working at the dealership site worked on trucks and buses lot of Cummings to 220 and 671 Detroit's and whatever else was in the fleet.

But we never had any trouble with the little baby the Isuzu diesels 1.8-2.2 leter diesels 1.8 we're putt in the Chevettes and the 2.2 s we're in the love trucks

Well I bought a Love truck with the diesel,

It came from another dealerships inventory.

Well within three days the transmission started jumping out of 4th gear.

Long story short after 48000 milesnot getting this problem resolved even took it to different dealerships to let them try to fix it.

I went into arbitration to the states lemon law program and 1 I only lost $125 for use and mileage it only had 427 miles on it when I first had repairs documented with a complaint at the dealer.

So fuk GM, driver first generation Cummings Dodge never looking back never getting another Chevy or anything else from GM are Ford for that matter.

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Andrew Squiggman /

Lol. American pot metal.

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I think the Chevethe diesel still holds the record for worst 0-60 time, al.osteoporosis a minute or something...lol.

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> Stephen Keller Wrote:

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> I think the Chevethe diesel still holds the record for worst 0-60 time,

> al.osteoporosis a minute or something...lol.

we actually took one of the old Oldsmobile diesels for the fuck of it from the warranty pile of junk and put one or two together that we tweaked advancing the camshaft and reworking the injector pump put it in a stripped out Chevy II body and was turning 1620s in the quarter mile.

It was a winner for bracket racing all we had to do was put a piece of sticker on the max throttle stop after we had our bracket time it was insane we would be within 2 tenths of a second slower and would usually make it through the eliminations but there was one guy running a Diesel Rabbit it was usually between him or us then the race track put us in a separate diesel class so we only ended up racing each other and we just kind of gave up on the whole shitshow.

It sure was fun blowing them up though.

All you had to do was set a can of ether inside the air cleaner and let it sit in idle eventually it would wear a hole in the can and you would hear this explosion in the back lot ins like yeah now I know I can put a complete engine in this and not have to do a warranty Pickin patch repair.

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> Stephen Keller Wrote:

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> ^ converted 350 diesels. Blew head gaskets every 40k or so.

LOL! I had a friend who listened to his mechanic/shop owner buddy and bought the first year GMC diesel 350...………...BwaHaHaHaaaaa!

I got his `71 Ford Sport Custom PU with only 107,000 that looked brand new and was in spectacular shape. I put over 300,000 MORE miles on that truck doing concrete work after pulling the 360 dog and installing a 460 with hi-po heads and overbored 30 with forged pistons.

Meanwhile my poor friend had three(at the least) major engine fails and trans, and so finally put a gas 350 in it.

You know....they FIRED that engineer that told them NOT to make a diesel out of the 350 gas engine. LOL!

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> Stephen Keller Wrote:

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> ^ converted 350 diesels. Blew head gaskets every 40k or so.

Wouldn't even last that long!

Head bolts would stretch or just snap No water separators that Diesel trucks have so pump, lines and injector which is corrode/fail and no fun to start when real cold either, very slow turd of a car,

It was just another horrible GM engineering disaster car kinda like my older brother’s 73 Vega (built only an hour away from my house, Lordstown plant) that with only 24k mi on it that burned over 2 quarts of oil a week, The Pontiac fiero was another joke

Pretty my best friend throughout the 80s (until he got a divorce and moved 2 states away) bought a few year old Diesel delta 88 he got for a good price in 84 with only 12k on it that had gasket replaced already before he got it and only lasted only a year 10,000 mi before the whole engine blew.

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You had a friend named Pretty?

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Yep! Back then I called GMC the General Mistake Corp. LOL!

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Andrew Squiggman /

Wow. You have been a dickhead for decades.

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> jayson sumpter Wrote:

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> You had a friend named Pretty?

Well how about a driver named Baby?

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Well, I picked a winner here, the last 2 days at -26, and -27 respectively this little beat fired up and ran, granted the first night we were allowed to bring the cars into the shop, but that was at 9pm and -26, and it fired right up! Seems to be in need of an Oxygen sensor, will be putting that in Sat, but running like a champ! Not bad for a few hundred dollar ride!

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02 sensor replaced today, got my Sat free to attend the mpls mc show now, car runs better than it has since I rescued it! I love this little beastie! :) She's no Crown Victoria, but easy to park and even better on fuel now, ultra reliable city transportation, sucks on ice, but rages through deep snow. :) Now, if only it was a stick shift, it would be perfect!

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They're nice,but avoid collisions with trees and guardrails. The Crown Vic is better at that!

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Absolutely, it does have a drivers side air-bag, but who knows if it would still work, and even if it did, the thing is so tiny not sure if it would help, had both windows down this fall, and it was almost like riding a motorcycle! I love my big American Iron, but this is a VERY well built/executed example of a whole 'nother way of looking at the automobile. Quit drinking about 6 yrs ago, so not worried about crashing anymore. I LOVE how well built this car is. The Crown Vic is very well built as well, just in a very different way. The poor thing is just rusting so badly, I wanted to keep her out of the salt this winter, I need new front quarters and the right rear is really bad, but so much $ into the Ford, I think I will do the body work, and just keep it, she rides like a Lincoln. Only 168k on it they are good for 200-300-k easy

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