The point Will is trying to make, Jimmy, is that your morality is subjective based on a construct of dogma, not a universal truth demonstrable by the 5 senses and classical logic. When someone says 'life begins at conception' that is a statement that the predominant 'christian' religious establishment has established and reinforced, and not based on scientific fact- and really based on some pretty thin biblical evidence too. Technically eggs and semen are also alive so life begins in the womb of the grandmother of the fetus in question and taking that argument to the logical extreme, any woman who isn't constantly pregnant in the service of populating the earth with lil' christian babies, is aborting a living person every month.
The conversation I was hoping to have, had more to do with the original topic of Ross Perot, the influence of third parties, and how your lords and masters use various psychological/ sociological tricks to keep you voting for people who don't represent 99% of your views, but claim to agree with you on one single issue.
Personally, and it has nothing to do with the debate, i'm anti-abortion, in fact i think most pro-choice people are anti-abortion. It definitely gives me the heebie jeebies as a dad and generally philanthropic person to intentionally end the live of a potential lil' baby.
The point of the discussion that will and i are trying to have is to illustrate how certain people and elements in the political process in America manipulate people to vote a certain way, not a general discussion about whether abortion is right, wrong, illegal, immoral or whatever else you and don are on about.