> Born to be WillD Wrote:
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> Do you want to discuss why electric is or is not just another pollution
> problem? You seem very certain of this but also seem to be pretty
> ignorant of the actual facts of it
>
> I believe your main argument is the availability and pollution involved
> with lithium?
>
> It mostly comes from salt flat brine, and definitely removes alot of
> otherwise usable water. But part of the adoption of batteries is the
> adaptation of batteries, it's constantly moving, research is constantly
> evaluating and developing materials which are less reliant on harmful or
> limited resources. But that development relies on the adoption of
> current technology for new technology to continue to evolve.
>
> Secondly is we gotta consider recycling. I think by far the most
> valuable approach to minimizing pollution associated with battery cars
> specifically and vehicles in general is to improve recycling of lithium
> batteries. It helps nobody to complain about a problem - because yes
> pollution around lithium and battery mnaufacture is a real problem -
> but it helps noone to complain about it and offer no solution, stand in
> the way of progress, and do nothing but continue polluting the ways we
> always have.
>
> and third if the problem is nonsustainable practice in 3rd world
> countries, shouldnt we spend more effort enabling a more universal set
> of controls in a global economy?
>
> Really though, if you wanna make an impact with vehicles, the 1st
> biggest impac you can make is never uy new. not only is it a useless
> waste of money, manufacture of new cars is the lions share of the
> emissions for the first 50k miles or more
Yep I have old used cars, old used bikes, all secondhand clothes, used music musical instruments, I buy very few new anything, I’m all about repurposing too,
Will, I’m not not just talk about lithium I’m talking about every rare earth metal and oil base plastics/all chemicals, sorry but I hate all chemical engineer kind of people if you say you’re in a chemical industry sorry I don’t like you, not personal I don’t like you professionally! Any kind of chemical thing to make a humans life easier makes the earths life harder!
To make all the pollution to basically make a fuel tank not to mention Electric motors all that wiring circuit boards made with gas chamber chemicals and rare earth magnets that no way will last 2-300,000 miles is stupid
RRR reuse, recycle etc.
See these other young folk you know very little about any kind of chemicals with everything that I dealt with all my life when I worked at or did work in factory’s, Machine shops, mills, card, printing, plastic extruding molding machine factories you name it when you would walk in the main area Your eyes would burn from all the chemicals and this is with all kinds of air filters (which I would maintain) air scrubbers, you name it,
I couldn’t even imagine how would be in Third World nations with no restrictions,
Probably about 2 to 300 times more pollution the USA,