You guys like to find stuff to fight about.
I like to get into the middle of it.
I have known a lot of Harley RIDERS. Good dudes. Many union tradesmen (as mentioned above). Those guys are almost issued an American made everything. For good reason. They are the backbone of American labor and they know what it feels like to support their local business.
I have known a few guys that rode with CLUBS which is different. They are a little more hardcore, but will let people ride with them that aren’t scaring anyone.
I also know a guy in a GANG. One that makes an effort to conduct illegal trade of banned substances. Their group, for obvious reasons, is pretty tight and would probably murder folks for the sake of their members.
Have you ever rolled up to a bar, walked inside and instantly felt like you didn’t belong? I have. Not a good feeling. I have been told outright of some bars to absolutely not go in unless I know someone or want to get cut.
I give a lot of crap to the majority of Harley RIDERS that bought their fashion accessory to polish on sunny weekends. I wouldn’t make the mistake of saying shit like that in front of a CLUB member (with his friends) or any GANG member (alone or accompanied).