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I actually do pops, and I have never sexually assualted any woman in my life ever!!! I never would say or act as terrible as what is in that video...

Trump is horrible and every person who supports this person needs to know what they are doing... have another listen of your dear leader. Fuck that, women are equal and deserve not to be groped like cattle!!!! Change your ways and do not support such a monster.

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I support>>> lowest unemployement in years,highest stock market in years, 401k's shyrocketing up,trade with china,mexico,canada put.on more even playing field ,tried to get much lower drug prices for americans but was blocked by dems didn't just draw a line in the sand and beg them not to cross it but let them know he would back up what he said...i could go on but i know it is a waste to get you to see the real side of things

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I can be reasoned with, I have said many times the democrats were being horrible and handed him the election... they both suck... but you can not molest women. It is fucked up and should never be ignored.

You can not call for people's recently deceased relatives to be used for political purposes

You can not wish for people's faces to be burned.

These things are deplorable. You two have your freedom, go ahead keep it up, but I will not ignore it. It makes it easy for me because you two never admit to any wrong doing ever, whilst I do. It is not too late for you two to change your minds, and I hope you do. It is much more peaceful to know you stand for women, kids, the poor, and wish for all races to be treated equally. Also justice for Breonna and George!!!

I care about more than money or cheap drugs!!

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Not sure why you keep on about the death of a relative as political or burned faces i must have missed that...i haven't kept.up with taylor.but as for floyd .i have said tge cop was wrong with the knee...floyd brought.on the situation himself...trump called it like it was...biden went and tried to make out like ge really cared..he wouldnt wipe his feet on those people if he didnt want the vote...yeaaaa trump for.telling it truthfully.insteadof a big democrat lie to get votes

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Hipshit, quit groping cattle. You sick mofo.

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> The Dude Wrote:

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> A, there hasn't been proof the trump has done these things

>

> B, the reason you should care about biden and hunter is the foreign

> influence used by him to push certain agendas using us taxpayer money

> and withholding foreign funding aka quid pro, the same thing they tried

> to pin on trump with 0 proof.

>

A: there are mountains upon mountains of proof of trümp colluding with the Russians amongst others.

B: there are mountains upon mountains of proof of trümp being under the influence of foreign governments, Russia, the Philippines and Turkey, to name a few.

The only reason trümp wasn't indicted for his criminal actions is because of an old precedent, not because he was innocent.

That you just choose not to believe all the evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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"it's not a lie if you believe it" George Costanza

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Haha, I love that series!! Really one of the best ever made.

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> The Dude Wrote:

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> The difference is that all the allegations were false and a nothing

> burger but you idiots are still trying to grasp at straws.

>

> I'm waiting for bathhouse barry info to hit the deck, yalls savior was a

> backstabbing polarizing traitor and should be hung beside biden and his

> son.

>

> Keep sucking that media cock for all it's got losers.

>

> Yall probably still believe a mask helps with the virus as well but too

> blind to see the truth because your heads so far up your asses.

>

> One word can describe you all

>

> Fucktards.

hahaha boy you sure are ruffled. I feel like a 4th grader trying to explain to a classmate that no, his cousin's neighbor's mentaly handicapped friend didn't actually lock a midget in a closet hoping for skittles, and the poor misled kid so sure of the veracity of his made-up urban legend just spewing rage violently trying to defend a blatant falsehood.

"no you're the idiot! It's real"

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> The Dude Wrote:

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> Trump was already trialed and found innocent, why should biden and

> hunter be trialed for the same exact thing?

Really? Did you, were you paying any attention? We're supposed to be worried a vice president's kid might've gotten preferred treatment, but not that the current acting president has refused to divest from his businesses, placed his kids and spouses in political positions, offered special access to his kids relating to business dealings, hard to miss the nepotism and self-dealing. or paying your kid as an employee and consultant to cheat taxes?

Or yea that time that the president did withhold aid to Ukraine actively making policy decisions just to benefit his own personal political position, that real thing that happened where the real president used political pressure for personal isn't a concern to you, but that the prior VP's son might've gotten paid more is? Like what's the big harmful thing that happened to you because hunter worked for burisma - point on the doll where that hurt you. I'm still not connecting the dots or seeing why this should be a concern at all really, let alone how big and scary it seems to be to make you piss your pants

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> I support>>> lowest unemployement in years,highest stock market in

> years, 401k's shyrocketing up,trade with china,mexico,canada put.on more

> even playing field ,tried to get much lower drug prices for americans

> but was blocked by dems didn't just draw a line in the sand and beg

> them not to cross it but let them know he would back up what he said...i

> could go on but i know it is a waste to get you to see the real side of

> things

Yes! A reasonable series of things to support. this is exactly the kind of lure that gets me on the hook thinking we can talk about something meaningful!

I also support low unemployment. I also recognize that trump has little or nothing to do with it, but it's a good thing to have low unemployment. I don't think it would be worse without trump nor is it better for him - it has only continued a pretty steady trend until the pandemic (I'll only dip there quickly but do totally believe based on many other countries and possibilities we didn't need to be hit as hard in unemployment if we'd managed a better response)

Regarding 401k and the stock market, we can chock that up to a difference in opinion, but I find a rocky unstable overinflated stock market dangerous, one big driver seems to be keeping interest rates low, but that's not helping the value of the dollar, and wage growth trails inflation. It's also worth noting that monthly job growth was better under Obama, poverty rates fell faster, looking at really any charts or statistics, it's clear trumps the 9th inning finishing pitcher with a 10 run leads who's managed to at least not tank the game. And when this all came with a tax cut for the super wealthy costing the country almost 2 trillion, all the while cutting valuable services, and only offering short term cuts to yout and I, I'm having a hard time getting behind that. Trickle down doesn't work, it hasn't and isn't and giving more of our tax money to corporations and endebting our country seems really stupid and EXACTLY the opposite of what a prudent business would do in times when the economy is supposed to be good.

The trade with china mexico and others is a GREAT point. lets actually talk about that!!!

us being on an even playing field is absolutely worth supporting, if there was any real actionable policy - but its instead just been a happy talking point for trump which he's really strongly failed to deliver on meaningfully - right? all he did was raise tariffs in unpredictable ways that hurt many businesses and resulted in retaliatory tarrifs also damaging and requiring bailouts of farmers etc. Growth in the US is one of the slowest in developed countries. the "new NAFTA" did almost nothing differently. None of the efforts have been direct and focused on real issues like IP, human rights, or Hong Kong's sovereignty

I could go on but it's a waste to get you to see the real side of things.

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Anyhow pops, my point is I also support the things you think you do, but want to help you recognize that trump's only promised these things and either failed to deliver or simply wasn't responsible for the gains he boasts of.

under scrutiny when you really stop to think about it, putting aside bias and ask how things would realistically be without trump, on the topics you mention, the only honest answer I could give is "about the same or better without him" but it wouldn't come with the mess of other trouble he's brought. I can name few policies that've been effective and targeted toward meeting those goals, but could compile countless that are harmful to progress elsewhere.

So again, I agree those are valid goals but strongly disagree they'd justify more of the accompanying train wreck, especially since they could've been achieved without it

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Open your eyes will and stop holding your ears....

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Blaine- The artist formerly known as Plumber Crack "(OFMC)" /

You need to practice what you preach pops.

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You people are blind.blaine

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You are a moron.slops

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Blaine- The artist formerly known as Plumber Crack "(OFMC)" /

> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> You people are blind.blaine

Spoken like a true racist.

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Hang on,

Somebody who visits here is posting that shit on FB?

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> Blaine- The artist formerly known as Plumber Crack "(OFMC)" Wrote:

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> > Pops Peds Wrote:

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> > You people are blind.blaine

>

> Spoken like a true racist.

Spoken like somebody with no real clue about racism

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Fuck off sloppy.

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I think the racism is going on in the form of a lack of outrage. George Floyd, and Breonna will straight up send me into a rage. Those are people!! And these stories just keep happening and it is just so fucked up. I hear all sorts of boomerisms too just to maintain the status quo,, hurr durr George shouldn't have been doin' that bler bler bler..

No motherfuckers!! No nazi shit should be going down.... Did they fucking pin that awful black people church shooter or did they buy him a fucking hamburger?

I'm sick of it, people are rioting over it, etc... and the boomers just want everyone to chill and not even get the slightest bit upset over it... that's racist.

I want justice and every decent non racist person should!

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Bas will bring it up, I will bring it up... the others, not so much!

But god forbid the price of Ford trucks go up, or the piggly wiggly plays rap music or the people say something against horrible trump.

That will spark a boomer outrage!

Racism, eh... we'll just calmly say don't do it and move on.... fuck that!!

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> > Blaine- The artist formerly known as Plumber Crack "(OFMC)" Wrote:

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> > -------------------------------------------------------

>

> > > Pops Peds Wrote:

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> >

>

> > > -------------------------------------------------------

>

> >

>

> > > You people are blind.blaine

>

> >

>

> > Spoken like a true racist.

>

> Spoken like somebody with no real clue about racism

You haven't a clue sloppy. Supporting the chump is no different than supporting Adolf Hilter. All hail to the Fuhrer! These men of color seem to have a different opinion than yours slops. Care to explain that or should I create a public poll here in O.T.?

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I tried to explain to you at one point pinnochio ...all people think different...if black,white,hispanic,no matter what race it does NOT mean they all think alike

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Pops. read this.

My eyes and ears are open. It's specifically for that reason why I honestly have a hard time considering this even about politics or policy anymore. When you dig deeper than the surface, trump seems to have NO real political positions. His entire political success relies on the deeper and deeper rationalizations y'all keep making for him. It's always the same tropes about speaking his mind or loving this country or not being a politician, but where's the real content delivered? which well thought out and considered policy did his specific presidency enable?

When I look at it I see a an who makes the old guard; conservatives, boomers, white men, Christians, feel like the victim. of something, of immigrants or minorities getting a bigger share - whatever. and then says fuck them, i'm here for you - you're the victim! (hint, you aren't) and then he lies, prolifically and profusely - saying nothing of substance and offering no real solutions, just providing a simple dumbed down answer to the hard questions for all the people who want to believe their lives could be made better if they weren't "the victim". For all the people who don't care to consider or have to try to understand the nuances of policy and international relations and science and war or whatever topic, for the people who don't want to really think, and don't want a real answer - he gives the hollow answer. And so it's never challenged, since it falls apart under the tiniest scrutiny - convinces his followers that an attack on his bullshit is an attack on them - "YOU'RE THE VICTIMS!" and they gobble it up spouting insults of opponents being deranged, the media's bias, whatever to distract from taking the time to realize how hollow and empty his policy and promises actually are.

being very honest I am pretty sure he see's himself the victim too, and is more like the person he attracts. I don't think his lying and bullshit comes from a dishonest malintent, rather having bought the same bag of lies that he's among the victims. this guy among the most priveleged and entitled in all history, somehow able to imagine himself the victim and convince others of it too.

TLDR:

YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> I tried to explain to you at one point pinnochio ...all people think

> different...if black,white,hispanic,no matter what race it does NOT mean

> they all think alike

Hey,Pops! Biden said they do...............quote ` If you don't vote for me, YOU AIN'T BLACK!' Remember? LOL!

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punkrock randy /

> Bas Autowas Wrote:

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> You forgot his bragging about his paedophile behaviour at beauty

> pageants;

>

> “You know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the

> owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it… Is everyone OK?

> You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these

> incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like

> that,”

Too bad Pops can't read that many words at once. Maybe his granddaughters will be in a Drumph pageant one day. If these things don’t make him out to be the shitbag he is, nothing will.

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Pops, even though a true Democrat, but not a Socialist, thinks for himself and absolutely knows the snow job that the Dims have been pulling on their supporters.

His aged learning and wisdom exceed yours by 1000%.

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> Don Ohio Wrote:

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> Pops, even though a true Democrat, but not a Socialist, thinks for

> himself and absolutely knows the snow job that the Dims have been

> pulling on their supporters.

>

> His aged learning and wisdom exceed yours by 1000%.

Seriously? Pops has had 7 heart attacks and comes to off topic daily to stir shit. Pops has threatened me with the knife he supposedly uses on 300 pound hogs. Ya, that's a lot of wisdom there dum dum. Let's see #8....

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