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...he's lying.

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Maybe, maybe not, I can say I've had a good yr too, have a great new job, healthy etc, but to act like thousands have not IS super cold. I do my part and use mask, and stay away from groups etc, but I always kind of did that. The lack of concern for those who lost jobs and lives is very depressing to hear, could have been you? Or don't you ever think about that?

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^^^Right on cue!

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Yep, I’m lying. Keep telling yourself that.

Stephen, it was us. All the same shit happened to us. Wife lost her job. Family members got sick. Schools got shut down. Businesses collapsed all around us. But, while we couldn’t control the pandemic, we could control our response to it. My wife got a great new job, with awesome pay, retirement & benefits. We all got well. Schools opened back up. We got to spend more family time together. I really do feel bad to those who have lost family members to this, but that wasn’t really what we’re talking about. It’s the bigger picture. It’s how you deal with things. If you don’t like the view, look out a different window. You may be in the same shitty place, but your outlook on the situation determines your happiness. You are in control of your own life. You want better, do better, work better, think better, live better. Nobody will ever give you better. Make it happen. I chose to not let this defeat me. It won’t.

In all reality, 2020 has been the best year I’ve had in a long, long time. I refuse to feel guilty or bad for that. And it sure doesn’t mean I’m heartless to those who haven’t.

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I'm not saying wallow in misery, i'm saying have a tiny sliver of a heart and try to recognize how your actions impact others. maybe a bit of empathy for others. It's extremely selfish and arrogant to be not just ignoring, but advocating for others to dismiss the suffering of others, and the importance of working together to sort out a global shit situation.

this year sucks, worse for many, and absolutely failed by our weak pathetic incapable leadership. But there's this insanely vain idea that this is exaggerated to make trump look bad, or that it's overreacting to try to save hundreds of thousands of lives by just exercising some basic caution, or that taking a serious thing seriously is "weak" or somehow "being manipulated", and this all comes from a very specific subset of society just exposing over and over again the depths of their selfishness.

like the middle schooler jab fits in a lotta ways - especially how that attitude's a lot like putting other people down to make yourself feel better. you don't feel better, you just make it hard for other people - it's a very similar seeming mentality, rather than accept a challenge and help make things better for everyone, instead just belittling those who try.

I think you summed it up in the u do u comment tho, buncha the rest of us out here like howabout we do we and exist and contribute to a society, a community

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Yeah, you’re looking out the wrong window. We don’t see the same thing.

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that's a good point

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Will, it kinda goes along with a previous discussion of ours, where I mentioned “...what you feed, grows” or something along those lines. So much about life depends on our chosen perspective. If I’m gonna make it through this shitty, shitty world, I’ve got to feed the right monsters, listen to the right voices, and look out the right window. Otherwise this place ain’t worth living in. I’m just like anybody else, doing what I gotta do to get through it all. And I GOTTA look at things thru a positive light, or I’ll never make it. It’s a daily struggle. I know not everybody’s world looks like mine, but I don’t live in everybody else’s world. I get that pain and suffering are very real, and we will all likely have to reconcile with that someday. It legitimately hurts my heart to see people suffer. Any people. But life has given me a lot of callouses, and I’ve put up a lot of walls to protect myself. There are a few causes out there that I hold very dear. I help who I’m able. I’m not a heartless asshole- I have a heart. This year could have gone down very differently for me & mine. I do believe that the way we responded to the challenges as they came, and our attitudes, made the difference. We haven’t always dealt well with things. We’re growing.

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punkrock randy /

> Potr zebie Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> ...he's lying.

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And, the wife just got a big, fat raise, effective Nov 1. Gotta love Union, government work. Thanks, dems! Right. 2020 getting better every day.

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punkrock randy /

> Seth B Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> And, the wife just got a big, fat raise, effective Nov 1. Gotta love

> Union, government work. Thanks, dems! Right. 2020 getting better every

> day.

You love union but vote Drumph?!?

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Duh! Many of us that way. Funny how that works, huh?

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Yeah it is weird. Because the rich wanting to get richer (Republicans) are on a warpath against collective bargaining. Its like socialism to them. Pure Evil.

I experienced the death of a union first hand. wages stagnated, pensions eliminated, 401k match reduced to nil, benefits $690/mo for shit health insurance. I could go on. What was once a career employment was reduced to a job which looked about as good as pizza delivery. Actually, pizza guys get free food.

The real sacrifice, and price, required to fix the American economy is gonna require PAINFUL financial responsibility from the Fed down. Nobody wants to hear that and no politician can run with it. Perot almost did. People were a lot different back then.

And that brings me back around to what Im always saying on here. We don’t have a bad leader problem, we have a bad people problem. Think, a demagogue trying to win the favor of educated, critical thinking, responsible citizens would have to woo them with... Fucking GOOD ideas.

When you’re luring a herd of dumbasses around, you can twinkle whatever shiny thing you want and if it gets their attention, you’re good to go.

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punkrock randy /

USA deaths per capita 20 times higher than that of Germany. Drumph admin fail.👎🏼

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Blaine- The artist formerly known as Plumber Crack "(OFMC)" /

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Liberal maturity at its finest.

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You mean this guy?

https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1315713355194212355

Rather mature behaviour for a member of Congress innit? (edited)

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looks like our 7 day average is back under 1 death per minute. so that's "good"?

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punkrock randy /

It’ll go away when it warms up. Dumdum OHio agrees with that asshole who is about to get evicted from the white house. The two of them is always right. 30-32 dead, right =D~~~~on?????

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Nobody knew it was an engineered virus out of a lab. You Dim leaders were calling for street parties and going to sports events, Fauci said `go on a cruise', etc.

I lived my life as best I could. Not a bit ashamed of it.

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Blaine- The artist formerly known as Plumber Crack "(OFMC)" /

...and then Fauci said;

Wear a mask

Social distant

Avoid crowds

Stay home

Don’t be stupid

Pay attention donnie.

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punkrock randy /

> Don Ohio Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> Nobody knew it was an engineered virus out of a lab. You Dim leaders

> were calling for street parties and going to sports events, Fauci said

> `go on a cruise', etc.

>

> I lived my life as best I could. Not a bit ashamed of it.

Lol, now you think that the dems and Fauci caused our irresponsible way of reacting to this?! How’s about your blind leader? And “live your life cause it’s not even as bad as the flu. You and orange Don were wrong =Donnyboy, deal with it.

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> Don Ohio Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> Nobody knew it was an engineered virus out of a lab. You Dim leaders

> were calling for street parties and going to sports events, Fauci said

> `go on a cruise', etc.

>

> I lived my life as best I could. Not a bit ashamed of it.

Of course you are not, because everything is about you, all the time, "god" and "murica" said so.... Fuck you very much for that. During a time of pandemic/disaster we ALL have to have our freedoms limited a bit, for the good of everyone, it sucks, but it is the right thing to do, if you can't see that you are a selfish asshole. The fucking '50's are over, everyone is important now, not just old white men. It's no wonder you buy into the chumps bs, he has tried to keep the past alive and mainstream, got news for you, you fossil, the world has changed and is continuing to change, wake the fuck up! There is no place in today's America for outdated thinking, move on or shut the hell up. Your type of thinking/living has had it's chance, and left us with racism and divide, the demographics of the country have changed, maybe not out in the sticks, but overall they have, and you had better figure out a way to accept it. There are people you don't understand/like but they are just as American as you, and their health and welfare are every bit as important as yours. Try for once to look outside yourself?

P.S. Manifest Destiny is not a real thing, just a way to justify white supremacy. Even if god were real in no way would he/she condone the destruction/subjugation of one race by another, if you believe your fairy tales god created everyone, not just the white race.

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Stephen...you won't agree with this but it is you and people like you that causes more of the racial devide...there was no need for race to be brought out in what you wanted to say to Don....sweep the dirt from under your own rug before condeming others for theirs

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No dirt under my rug. It certainly did need to be mentioned, just look at that rant about thanksgiving how the forefathers called on "god" to bless America (white anglo america) even as we decimated the indigenous population, he really believes that crap, and that religions/cultures other than his own are not correct or as good as his. That's as racist as it gets. We need to reject all the "America is perfect" crap we were fed in school, we have done some wonderful things as a country, no doubt, but we are also guilty of some very heinous things that we whitewash as gods will or some such bullshit. This country was built on racism, and it continues today, granted we have moved forward some, and laws are on the books, but the attitudes persist. We have come a long way, but we have an even longer road ahead of us, and '50's era thinking is nothing but a roadblock to progress. Hopefully the trump administration is the last gasp of this kind of thinking, the world has changed too much for any one group to be that self serving. What comes next will NOT resemble the past, but will serve the new demographic, it will not look the same because the world is not the same.

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Stephen you seem to think only you have the right opinion on that....how does anything change without listening to different views.....your view is not always correct.....you.fall in and condem others for not accepting your view but fail to look at theirs.....you can't make somebody agree or accept anything the way you go about it.....name calling and ridicule will never convince anybody to think your way.....you might get them to see your side by explaination but never by force

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> Stephen Keller Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> > Don Ohio Wrote:

>

> > -------------------------------------------------------

>

> > Nobody knew it was an engineered virus out of a lab. You Dim leaders

>

> > were calling for street parties and going to sports events, Fauci said

>

> > `go on a cruise', etc.

>

> >

>

> > I lived my life as best I could. Not a bit ashamed of it.

>

> Of course you are not, because everything is about you, all the time,

> "god" and "murica" said so.... Fuck you very much for that. During a

> time of pandemic/disaster we ALL have to have our freedoms limited a

> bit, for the good of everyone, it sucks, but it is the right thing to

> do, if you can't see that you are a selfish asshole. The fucking '50's

> are over, everyone is important now, not just old white men. It's no

> wonder you buy into the chumps bs, he has tried to keep the past alive

> and mainstream, got news for you, you fossil, the world has changed and

> is continuing to change, wake the fuck up! There is no place in today's

> America for outdated thinking, move on or shut the hell up. Your type of

> thinking/living has had it's chance, and left us with racism and divide,

> the demographics of the country have changed, maybe not out in the

> sticks, but overall they have, and you had better figure out a way to

> accept it. There are people you don't understand/like but they are just

> as American as you, and their health and welfare are every bit as

> important as yours. Try for once to look outside yourself?

>

> P.S. Manifest Destiny is not a real thing, just a way to justify white

> supremacy. Even if god were real in no way would he/she condone the

> destruction/subjugation of one race by another, if you believe your

> fairy tales god created everyone, not just the white race.

I agree with this reality ^^^ as would 95% here. The other 5% are living in a fantasy. (edited)

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> Stephen you seem to think only you have the right opinion on that....how

> does anything change without listening to different views.....your view

> is not always correct.....you.fall in and condem others for not

> accepting your view but fail to look at theirs.....you can't make

> somebody agree or accept anything the way you go about it.....name

> calling and ridicule will never convince anybody to think your

> way.....you might get them to see your side by explaination but never by

> force

I did explain it, things have changed, he refuses to, it's that simple. You can't stop or change that because "you said so" that's not how it works, I don't understand/like many of the modern world changes either, I was also raised religious and "America ia what God wants" but have lived long enough to learn how wrong that is. The world is for everyone, not just Americans.

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> Stephen...you won't agree with this but it is you and people like you

> that causes more of the racial devide...there was no need for race to be

> brought out in what you wanted to say to Don....sweep the dirt from

> under your own rug before condeming others for theirs

Absolutely true ! And Trump killed air traffic from China before 1 known US death from Covid.

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punkrock randy /

> Don Ohio Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> > Pops Peds Wrote:

>

> > -------------------------------------------------------

>

> > Stephen...you won't agree with this but it is you and people like you

>

> > that causes more of the racial devide...there was no need for race to

> be

>

> > brought out in what you wanted to say to Don....sweep the dirt from

>

> > under your own rug before condeming others for theirs

>

> Absolutely true ! And Trump killed air traffic from China before 1 known

> US death from Covid.

Duh!! Got nothing to do with keeping you and I safe though. He hates China, like you. And that was his motive. Don’t give orange one any credit, we’re only winning if you’re shooting for highest death per capita. 30-32 dumbass donny boy!!!

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