Vintage snowmobiles

Jesse Nordlander /

Just finishing up this vintage cat as a big storm is rolling in.. Being old and 2 stroke, im betting there's a few enthusiasts on here

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I have a 70 panther also. She is in sad shape now.

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Yeah man we had a pretty good thread going last year. I've got a 73 polaris colt, 340 free air. Just sold my 95 vmax 500 and I'm shopping for a bigger, newer touring sled

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Rick Bergsma /

Fabricate some brackets to move the skis outward a couple inches , it'll be so much more stable

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Also got this little guy

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Snowmobiles are about the only thing I miss from living in the north.....

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I dont hardly ride anymore. Snow has been hit or miss the last few years. Seems like we get a storm and then it rains and wipes it out. I realy dont want to travel up north to ride vintage sleds. They are like mopeds as they break down often but you are trapped out in the woods in the freezing cold and you cant push them home.

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Jesse Nordlander /

good stuff, love em.. the old cats with 17" wide track are a bit more stable than the competition. used to have a moto ski zephyr, interesting; but liked to tip over constantly. notable machines I also have are a 1970 sno jet thunderjet 634 hirth, and a 20 original mile 73 lynx. cant get enough of any old 2 strokes. we finally have settled at a place with many acres to ride on, been 8 years since riding, one of the perks of "growing up", and getting the a&p license.

good point on reliability, or lack of. as a kid I had 1 running arctic cat 292 engine and 6 lynx chassis, spent hundreds of hours swapping used parts back and forth to keep 1 going. back then I was so poor, I would pull steel rivets by hand, and reuse bearings.. pretty sure tractor had more miles on it towing it back.

does anyone go to the fulton ny eastern whiteout?

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Jesse Nordlander /

guy locally has a pile of panther, lynx parts and pieces literally giving away if u want to resurrect it.

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Hirth or JLO?

Front drive sprockets will need replacement, as they WILL shatter...

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Jesse Nordlander /

Great advice for all these old cats..

Yes sprockets were replaced. Undercarriage and driveshaft bead blasted and coated with 2 part epoxy primer followed by black polyurethane. Blown sprockets were the reason it was parked by 2x PO, recent PO was so dumb he soldered stator ground to hot side of coil. It has the 1 year only flywheel fan jlo.

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So many old cats up here for 50 a sled.

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Jesse Nordlander /

I always see dreamy machines up there for cheap. We don't have that luxury. Not saying there valuable, just very hard to come by. We just don't get enough snow to justify the expense of owning

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> Jesse Nordlander Wrote:

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> I always see dreamy machines up there for cheap. We don't have that

> luxury. Not saying there valuable, just very hard to come by. We just

> don't get enough snow to justify the expense of owning

Kinda getting that way here unless you live in the frozen north. Yeah when I was big into it the old stuff was hard to get at a good price. Now I see parts sleds for $20 to $100. Mostly cats because they are all aluminium. Most of the old skidoos have done rotted away. I would like to get my hands on an old snow traveler with rear engine. Be nice to toss a modern fourstroke engine on one and just through the trails. A few years ago I thought I was gonna get back into it and picked up three elan projects but decided I didn't have the time and sold them.

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Jesse Nordlander /

When I was a kid they were everywhere in ny. My favorites are the one that rust, the old funky ones. Snojet, and moto ski are some of those, there nearly always crispy now. Elans are awesome, quite collectible when compared to others

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We had a MotoSki Cadet as our farm sled

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It's vintage to some people but 20 years old makes this the 'new' one in my fleet.

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EFI, electric start, reverse, all the bells and whistles. It's a tank. Should be nice for going on some longer trips with my wife this winter... That is if we ever get snow!

It's unusual to have bare ground this late around here, but it's supposed to get down to 0 next week. It's funny how having a sled or studded tires on your dirt bike flips the script on winter, the colder and snowier the better!

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Finally had enough snow hit the ground on sunday to go for a rip around the back yard on the old Colt.

Hopefully get some more soon and get the trails open, i'm jonesin'... late january and only a couple inches on the ground. Miserable.

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Ungapped rings to bind them all /

That 2-up is a great find... always keeping an eye out for one here. Had 300 & 340 Enticers many years ago then a 97 Polaris 700 triple beast. Picked up a trailer with well-kept 98 Polaris xc700 and 99 Yami 700 Vmax triple last year to see if they're still worth owning. Def Vintage next to the high tech squadrons passing us like F35s vs WWII prop planes out there, but still plenty of fun. Managed to get out for 3 days in the one big snow last year and rode a couple of 100 mile days this month. Cadillac, MI and North here are adequate now and will probably be good for another couple of weeks.

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Nice, yeah, the pantera was a good deal but it has been sitting so I've been going through it. Finally thought I had it dialed in last week, estart working, everything, rode around the yard running great, pulled it back in to check coolant and stuff, huge cracks in the intake boots... EFI 'carb'was hanging off by a thread.... Definitely would have melted it down if I had kept riding.

Boots came in earlier this week but haven't been able to get to them.

I'm just looking forward to not having it load up and foul plugs when it's warm, the new stuff is crazy high tech, I don't really want to invest used car money into my snowmobile program.

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Finally tore into this crazy mess...

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They made the disc brake caliper integral to the chain case on this crazy thing. One side has a cavity with the pressure fitting and the other side has the fixed pad. The rotor is floating on a splined shaft that runs through both bearings and connects the contra pulley to the chain drive down to the driver pulley that engages the track.

This is the backside, the bearing on the chain case side was loose in its bore, maybe seized? Gear oil was coming out of the chain case and turning into schmoo on the pad.

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This is the back side of the chain case. Fixed piston would be at 9 o clock looking straight on. Kinda clever design to kill a lot of birds with one stone but poorly executed.

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This is the engine, how can you not love this, it's basically a 340cc dual av7 with a CVT. Free air cooled even, peak of Fuji heavy industries small engine tech in 1974. I think it does about 20-25 hp. Which is plenty in this 250# machine with like 2" suspension travel

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I didn't take any pics of the 01 pantera because I was jamming on it Sunday night outside as the sun was going down. I probably could have run these but when you're 30 miles from civilization in the middle of winter on a snowmobile trail, you don't want any surprises.

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Forgot the pic...

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Also I'm definitely kidding... The scary thing is that this was actually running pretty ok. The efi compensated for the air leak but it wouldn't have lasted long on the trail.

Also found a big ol mice nest in the air box... I checked right away before starting it but it was trapped behind a secret panel go figure. Who knows how much mouse poop this thing ate. Piston skirts through the intake ports looking pretty good so 🤞🤞

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Bad ass man, I'm impressed, we don't need no stinking intake boot...lol!

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It truly is just like mopeds in the snow. One of the all time best topics in O.T.

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Jesse Nordlander /
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Unfortunately i sold the old arctic cat, so i frantically assembled the chaparral firebird ss 634 hirth.

Full tear down and inspection of engine was accomplished just for being so uncommon.

Has a boat load of grunt but def not a race winner.

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Woah yeah that's rad, 634 that's a big dude. Was over at a friend's house last weekend checking out some hirth... They definitely remind you of a puch or Sachs engineering wise. I like the big cast shrouds and everything, feels very old school. Old dolmar chainsaws kinda the same.

He's got a 69 evinrude that I'm gonna buy once I get some projects out of the way here. Talk about weird, designed by outboard engineers, totally different animal, opposed twin -that's why I want it... I've just got a huge boner for 2t opposed twin for some reason!

Didn't make much progress on the colt today, I procrastinated all morning making cookies and doing crafts with the kids, then had to do some plumbing, then cleaned up some frozen/drifted snow, put the new belt on my ariens single stage, and spent way too much time looking for this stupid little wire clip that holds the headlight in.... Finally found it and installed the new led headlight.

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> Graham Motzing Wrote:

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> Woah yeah that's rad, 634 that's a big dude. Was over at a friend's

> house last weekend checking out some hirth... They definitely remind you

> of a puch or Sachs engineering wise. I like the big cast shrouds and

> everything, feels very old school. Old dolmar chainsaws kinda the same.

>

> He's got a 69 evinrude that I'm gonna buy once I get some projects out

> of the way here. Talk about weird, designed by outboard engineers,

> totally different animal, opposed twin -that's why I want it... I've

> just got a huge boner for 2t opposed twin for some reason!

>

> Didn't make much progress on the colt today, I procrastinated all

> morning making cookies and doing crafts with the kids, then had to do

> some plumbing, then cleaned up some frozen/drifted snow, put the new

> belt on my ariens single stage, and spent way too much time looking for

> this stupid little wire clip that holds the headlight in.... Finally

> found it and installed the new led headlight.

> >

Looking good. I always take some 1/4" steel plate to widen the front skis on all vintage sleds. Makes a real big difference in handling.

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Some brands lend themselves well to the ski spreaders, my colt is a little more complicated than that but I do plan on doing it eventually.

Its a good way to get into it, have a rider that is rough and just fix it up a little as you go. I'm going to do a vintage ride on Saturday in below zero temps on the old girl. Gotta get everything dialed in

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