> Seth B Wrote:
> Y’all focus on coal. It’s a small portion of energy production, and
> although I endorse its use as viable, I condone other methods much more
> prolifically. Nuclear energy is great. So is Hydro. Both are much more
> efficient and environmentally friendly than wind or solar, and produce
> much greater volumes of energy. Wind and solar are not sustainable in
> their current trajectory, unless heavily subsidized. They will likely
> never be profitable, or environmentally justifiable.
> But keep focusing on coal, since I mentioned it, like a typical libtard.
This was almost a reasonable response!
I am totally willing to have those discussions, I think there's a lot of merit to scrutiny of wind and solar, and definitely to hydro and nuclear also.
The things that have very little merit however are memes that imply using "hundred of gallons of jet fuel to de-ice wind turbines" somehow invalidates that wind is still a cleaner energy than many alternatives.
And regarding the waste, I think a more fruitful discussion would be to identify a problem and discuss solutions/approaches.
OK so problem? Theres limitied lifetime to wind baldes made of bonded fiberglass and the blades themselves cannot be recycled easily and are landfilled. How to approach this?
OK let's quantify the energy used in their disposal, lets look at the cost and land use in that disposal, is there opportunity to reclaim that land or is it permanently toxic? Balance that versus the cost (both $ and energy) to recycle - which right now isnt scaled but we could spend say $1b to develop a process to recycle, when does that break even? Or is that break even soooo far off in the future that we'll never reach it and we'd be better scrapping wind energy in general and meeting power demands using natural gas with CCS? Or Nuclear?
And then we consider the balance of disposing 100 tons of wind blades or 10 lbs of nuclear waste, or 10,000 cubic meters of CO2, none are particularly easy but there's a quantifiable answer and we find the best solution by thinking about those numbers and effects and inputs, and not just "derpy-doo helicopter flys by wind tubine so clearly it doesnt work"