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> > interesting that you find genitals worthy of cancelling but not racism

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> Will i have not watched and truthfully was not even aware there were

> remakes of peter pan...it is my.guess the remakes are some younger

> writers changing the original to show things different so i will ask if

> you are talking about watching Mary Martin as peter pan..if so would you

> please point out anything racial,sexual,or degrading ? As for any newer

> versions it doesn't surprise me that it isn't worth viewing

It was posted earlier, from the disney animated peter pan, the "what makes the red man red" is pretty objectively racist and offensive. And what i've been trying to get at is that at the time it seemed OK, and theres a generation that grew up with that, and normalizing that, and now when someone says you that's not rated G, or the redskins or indians sports teams want to change their names, people get puffed up in the chest thinkin this isn't offensive, it's normal, because they've always had it

but the truth is it probably has always been offensive, just we're evolving in our awareness and changing what's acceptable.

Like there's this argument against things like BLM and whatever that racism can't be erased overnight, that it's a long process, well OK then, that long process will involve removing and correcting racial stereotypes, and changing the way we view things which normalize prejudices.

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I mean, tastes change for sure. There's merits to old tv and new stuff too, kinda sounds sometimes like a buncha folks griping about kids these days and their new fangled rock n' roll music and gyrating hips, it's all too inappropriate and doesnt have the class and soul of ol sinatra or whatever

and on the other hand you're ignoring that there was and always has been some pretty obscene entertainment, and rose glasses reminiscing about only the best of several past decades, compared to the worst of the past few years. there's literally thousands of shows, it's hardly an unbiased comparison being considered here.

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Rick and Morty kicks ass, that said I would not want young kids watching it, but they are. I agree with earlier post that we were not designed to evolve as fast as we have, big time. I like old tv, if for nothing else a show was an hr long, not this 1/2 hr, maybe 16 mins of content, 3 month "season" stuff of today. But people can't focus on much longer it seems (read less) sigh. There also seems to be a much closer blend of entertainment and reality than there used to be, even as a small child I knew tv and movies were not real. Values were instilled by parrents, not the media. In rewatching peter pan clip about Indians, yeah, it's bad, but I would never have remembered it now, nor did it shape my views of anyone. (edited)

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My favorite kid movies, which I requested repeatedly as a diaper wearer, were The Brave Little Toaster and The Velveteen Rabbit.

If it’s possible, I think those movies shaped my personality some.

I still think Brave Little Toaster is good. Watched it with my kiddos. I have never found the same version of Velveteen Rabbit that I saw as a kid. Maybe someday my kids will have to sit theough that as well.

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punkrock randy /

Lol, I remember brave little toaster🤣. And Milo and Otis. Now that’s some wholesome stuff right there.👍🏼 Sorry to bash older stuff, just the way i feel. I hope everyone gets to ride as much as I have lately, good for the brain. Loving this early spring.

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I dont mean it shapes your views directly, but it's indicative of a whole era that normalized stereotypes and a whole generation, or at least a decent percentage has a hard time seeing why it's a problem, or why something like a sports teamname is offensive, cuz it's been normalized, and a lotta people havent unlearned that. It's not a conscious bias, but an subconcious complacency with an unjust status quo. What I mean is stuff like the pan example don't condition people to think less of indians or whatever, at least not for most people, but it does allow people to say things like "I grew up with that and turned out fine, so it's not an issue". Like it doesnt create or promote the prejudices necessarily, it just makes people who arent the victims of it feel immune to it.

theres a lot of hidden bias that people dont recognize they have, and the road to equality means acknowledging and addressing all the little influences that create or normalize prejudices or repressive norms

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Will>>>>>> it is called " looking" for some way to see something wrong in something...stop trying to find a problem to complain about and there will be a lot less....

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> Will>>>>>> it is called " looking" for some way to see something wrong

> in something...stop trying to find a problem to complain about and there

> will be a lot less....

Are you insinuating Will is a societal hypochondriac?

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If you two don't understand why "Indians" or "Redskins" is wrong, then there is no helping either of you. This is not "looking" for something wrong. This is asking why it was ever okay. The same stands with many old TV shows, books, and other media. It used to be normal to have multiple drinking fountains but that doesn't make it right just because "that's how it's always been" to certain generations of people.

Pops, best of luck figuring out the world in your sunset years.

Seth, my offer to open mouth kiss you to prove Covid is a libtard hoax stands.

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I guess if i said you have a head like a basketball the word basketball would become a racial slur because it is considered more the choice.of black people and we would have to ban basketballs and games then have all history of it removed ..."looking for a reason"... (edited)

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♣Slew Foot♣ /

So am I racist because I support the stereotypical hillbilly hick?

Lack of diversity.

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I don’t think Will is “looking”. I think he is making a genuine effort to mediate the discussion and bring up good talking points.

We have lots of resilience training in the military. There is a strong desire to get rid of the stereotypical salty old tough guy. However, people do need to be physically and mentally resilient.

So, how do you give people figurative and literal thick skin without first roughing them up? If I want to do 70 push-ups in a minute, I have to exercise hard. My muscles will be sore, my shoulders will ache. Eventually, My body will perform the task I desire with little effort and discomfort.

Same goes for mental resilience. In order to maintain a strong, healthy attitude, a person needs to be challenged with all sorts of mental stressors. Starting small and escalating until, eventually, nearly nothing can shake the balance.

Socrates, in the Republic, warned against a society that tried to legislate every single topic into law. Rather, the citizens should be so well formed that knowing what is right and wrong would be clear to them and the idea of drafting laws for such things would be an absurd waste of time.

I agree. I don’t want a sanitized world. Where every physical and mental action is done across a minefield of rules.

At the other side, it isn’t desirable to have everyone being their worst self all the time with the expectation that everyone also be so thick skinned that nothing gets through. That would be barbaric.

Anything that promotes more snowflakes is not the answer. We aren’t helping anyone by making them so sensitive. There are people that forget to set their alarm clock, show up late, get talked to, have a near mental breakdown, seek counseling, can’t regulate their emotions based on one small personal failure and the reasonable constructive feedback resulting from it.

Nobody but combat units and violent street gangs are trying to create HARD people. I think society has made that guy taboo for a while. Being too thick skinned robs a person of much of the “sensation” that makes life sweet.

Where do y’all feel like you fall? Snowflake, Moderate, Tough Guy?

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punkrock randy /

Can you at least read and fully comprehend what Papa has written Pops?? You are getting 2 different opinions that are both valid and well written for you. Just blink once if you sorta understand that calling a Native American a redskin is a racist thing to do. Blink twice if you’re confused still.

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I want to add that being thick skinned is empowering. People that can walk through life and not give a shit about what anyone else says or thinks usually like that feeling.

It’s understandable that they may want others to have that same thick skin. But, it actually can take a lot of trauma to get there.

Not for everyone. My oldest son, that has autism, doesn’t give a shit about what other people think. He was born that way.

Other people get razzed a little to make them less sensitive and they call it hazing and kill themself.

It has been a topic of training and I do not ever want to be responsible for pushing someone else to that dark place.

There has always been a ton of ridiculous male behavior blamed on penis size insecurity. “He must be compensating for something”. Maybe the Danish are trying to confront this? Maybe the social fallout of Dillerman will be a generation that is comfortable with the natural size of their penis and doesn’t feel the need to prove their masculinity with machismo.

I still think there is more tasteful ways to go about it. At least for me. But, like I said before, if it works for them, so be it.

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I just found out about another Danish tv show where grown-ups stand in front of children without clothes.

Here's an article about the show (in English)

I just found out about it because this will also start on Dutch tv in a few weeks. I love how it annoys religious fundamentalists and right wing scumbags.

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^ that show seems like a great idea.

I can fully support the discussion of real human appearance. Setting realistic standards and expectations.

Especially for the adolescents that may otherwise try to satisfy their curiosity about nude forms with online porn.

I think the human body is beautiful and nice to look at. It doesn’t have to be sexual. And it is extremely important, maybe even necessary, to have other people be accepting of your appearance.

No kidding, I think I would like to check it out for myself first, but my kids will likely be seeing this.

We have walked them through plenty of art museums where nude bodies are featured. They have seen plenty of movies that show almost complete nudity and most of the acts which lead up to sex. They aren’t ignorant of this stuff, but as it is right now, they probably have no idea what ordinary people look like naked and what they should expect for their own bodies.

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I still think people are thinking way too hard and too much about this stuff, yes it is good to not write stereotypes into mainstream entertainment, but I assure you people in the minority groups have slurs and stereotypes about the majority as well. It's human nature. On Pappa's scale I put myself in the moderate to don't give a fuck side, you can't go through life worrying about what everyone is thinking about you, just don't be a total dick and you will be fine. EVERYONE is someone else's weirdo, and that will NEVER change.

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I think everybody needs to grow up and undrrstand it's a real world and as was said racism can be said goes both ways..just as the white woman that wore her hair in the style of black women and all hell broke loose that she was wrong for wearing that style,yet michelke obama wore her hair straightened and it was so glamorous and stylish ...is there really a difference,does it really matter..."looking for a reason" (edited)

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punkrock randy /

Pops hates genitalia and knowledge of how it works other than for reproduction. Nobody should talk about it out of wedlock.

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As history repeats itself...

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Oooh, must’ve been a good one.

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The stage thing is concerning. Like that couldn't have been an uninformed design. It is the rune..

As for the t-shirts, trump diddnt design them so I don't understand why they put them in the video...I mean not all people that supported trump are white supremacists, but a not insignificant amount were. Shouldn't be surprising that they designed tshirts with nazi symbolism.

I really am blown away by the rune stage.

Also, that cartoon network commercial HAD to be run during adult swim. Really no worse than alot of crap I saw on adult swim when I was getting high and watching it 15-10 years ago.....man flcl was good.....ohhh! And off the air!

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Feels good to read some stuff like that sometimes ..

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