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Jimmy Cincinnati /

Racism by definition could apply to any group of people... I'm sorry but saying that certain groups of people are not applicable to it (which you base on skin color) is in fact a racist claim to make. I don't care if you debate if this person or that person is the victim of racism... Or white people are victims of it currently... But atleast recognize that anyone could be the victims of racism depending on the situations. There are far more asians than any other group and it could very well be a different situation 20 or 50 years from now. Not saying it will happen but by definition they are the majority right now and the Chinese government is getting more aggressive.

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Jimmy ,Will gets really lost.in his world now and then.....he will.explain racism that way one time and a month later tell it the way you did.....racism can be against.any color or nationality.

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I can't possibly argue with you if you don't understand what racism is. so lets start there, look up racism. like define racism. seriously. because you 1st at least need to understand what racism is, and to differentiate from racial prejudice. I know you think you know, which makes it hard to learn something. but theres no point arguing with you unless we're talking about the same thing.

To help, here is what i'm talking about (and media and academics, people who study racism and its effects, victims of racism, pretty much everyone except white dudes) when i talk about racism

racism is a system of OPPRESSION based on race. you cannot be opressed if you are the opressor. thus WHITE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY CANNOT BE VICTIMS OF RACISM. it's simply not real. racism has for centuries established and upheld heirarchies based on race which benefit white people and oppress black, indiginous and people of color. this is history. centuries of history and still ongoing -

Certainly there are instances of racial prejudice against all races. but you're not opressed by it in any meaningful way. Social, systemic and institutional racism only benefit white folks.

If you can think of the handful of time's you've gone to maybe a predominantly balck neighborhood and felt unwelcome, or someone made fun of your embarrassing white people dance moves, good. focus on how shitty that was, and recognize your privelege. for beign able to identify a few select instances. now imagine it wasnt that one or 2 times, it was always. and it affects how you're treated by police, by teachers, by employers. THAT is racism.

so when i call you a racist, it is because you support and defend that system, you defend that inequality by pretending it isn't real. and thus by supporting a racist system, you are racist. simple as that.

I don't make this up. this is well accepted academic definition of racism, i am very consistent in my definition of it, as i am of the difference between racism and racial prejudice, but be sure - your defense and denial of the racism inherent in our system makes you, intentionally or not, racist.

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Will has nobody ever explained to you tgat you're not any where near as intelligent as you think you are????..i why are you such a racist yourself ?..i feel i know a bit more than you on the subject but might be wrong..i forget.you lived with a black guy at one point and have walked in those shoes..

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Educate yourself dude, don't worry about how educated you think I think I am, educate yourself - it's easy if you can get over what you think you already know.

racism is real, and we are the beneficiaries, and that is not fair

this is the crux of what I think I know, and wish you could also admit

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Will your problem again is you think it is inly one color or nationality involved..you need to get passed your ignorance to understand...remember this also...listen close >>>> all people of color do not think the same...

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punkrock randy /

Pops thinks that some colored ppl want America to be the way it is, racist and ignorant. He’s very confused as he’s mostly dealt with old white hillbillies. It’s a matter of a lack of exposure to what civilized society deals with on the day to day. Something you just don’t get pissing off your porch and killing animals for that glamour shot.

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Live with your stupidity Randy...i never have said there does not need to be changes made...make up all the bullshit you want.. ..there will be no changes as long as people like you are.involved to jeep things stired and looking for a reason

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> Will your problem again is you think it is inly one color or nationality

> involved..you need to get passed your ignorance to understand...remember

> this also...listen close >>>> all people of color do not think the

> same...

ok, you're right, i do think that. tell me about the other colors and nationalities involved.

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Think about the word itself Will....racism...it does not say black racism...it might be china racism .. i guess you think all the hate and attacks against asian people is not considered anything to do with race??? Is asian not a race ??? Does the color make it any diffetent ?

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punkrock randy /

> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> Think about the word itself Will....diffetent

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Blaine- The artist formerly known as Plumber Crack "(OFMC)" /

I’m convinced that pops is actually don ohio.

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Damn you sure are easy to convince Blaine. ..speaking of Don ..i see he is missing lately..i hope nothing bad has happened to him

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don wasn't even capable of the limited responses that pops manages, he just shot out blanket insults and reposted fox news or worse, with an added LOL! to pretend he actually knew what was going on. Dude's not even a sheep, he's the wool carried around on someone else.

ANYHOW. I don't see a point arguing the semantics of the word racism - if we can't even align on what it means (which is well defined in an academic sense as a system of opression based on race or religion) that a majority opressor can never be the victim of racism.

Miriam Webster: Racism- the systemic oppression of a racial group to the social, economic, and political advantage of another

However, you seem entirely incapable of adjusting your view to even accept that definition of racism (a system of opression based on raced or religion) or the history of racism (which for us in this country is centuries of white men consolidating their power and even very recently - within our lifetimes actively and admittedly opressing people of color, which is quite certainly still ongoing though less openly)

your focus on racial prejudice just ignores the whole issue of systemic racial injustice, and focuses instead on personal microagressions or finding other whatabouts or what-ifs that completely ignore the point

can you admit, without caveat or whatabouts - that racism (by whatever definition you can accept) exists in this country?

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Will i won't even attempt to figure out your bullshit post. . It is yiur attempt as usual to get everybody to think you are some smarter than the average bear know it all that posts your long drawn out page after page posts that is always how right you are and how dumb anybody else is. Damn i'm making a rambling post just like you that makes no sence in the end...let me put it to you like this...i think about as much of your views and intelligence as i did a coon dog i gave away a few years ago....he never could figure out what he was supposed to do or where the coon was. He just stood at the bottom of a random tree barking hoping it might be the right one.. (edited)

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ok.

i'll try to be more succinct.

I am operating on this definition of racism-

the systemic oppression of a racial group to the social, economic, and political advantage of another

not trying to act smart, sorry it comes off that way, just put a lot of thought into how/why i have the opinions I do, and to share that rationale

I do get frustrated at your unwillingness to consider my views and i'll admit it's fun throwing jabs in there. I'll try to knock it off, at least a while.

Don regularly acts an idiot though, so i meant that part ;)

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Dirty30 Dillon /

Pops' inability to complete a sentence free of syntactical, grammatical or even simple spelling errors, basically undermines any valid argument you have.

Will's "smart" comments are merely succinct explanations and counterpoints to your admonitions of his opinions/arguments.

Your failure to understand what he's saying, is not a fault of Will's, it's your own lack of comprehension.

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Never claimed to be educated Dillon..you and the otherbell cow crowd just try to pick apart anything i post to take a jab...i really don't have anything against any of you but post as i do because i got tired of the constant crap you post about me..i prefer to have friends and be friends with everybody but i have also made it clear if you try shoving me around because i have a diffetent view i will for sure shove back

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punkrock randy /

> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> i have a diffetent view

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Yo double D, be careful pops will smack you around with his cane.

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Still.in the same place

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Blaine- The artist formerly known as Plumber Crack "(OFMC)" /

Not understanding what someone is saying doesn’t qualify as being shoved around. Try thinking instead of reacting and you might not feel shoved around.

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Blaine i see that coming in from the other side and you probably don't ..i have appologized for things i have said in the past that was taken wrong...i know when nit talking dirrectly it can be read in a totally different way than ment...i am going to take your comment about it and look more close to see if it is more on me tgan i think...i have said also before i prefer to he friends ..

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Dirty30 Dillon /

> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> Never claimed to be educated Dillon..you and the otherbell cow crowd

> just try to pick apart anything i post to take a jab...i really don't

> have anything against any of you but post as i do because i got tired of

> the constant crap you post about me..i prefer to have friends and be

> friends with everybody but i have also made it clear if you try shoving

> me around because i have a diffetent view i will for sure shove back

You are allowed to have whatever views you would like, but that does not make them truth.

For instance, my wife believes in ghosts. I, as an empirical human being, do not. I have never seen it first hand and never seen evidence in it (although, honestly I have not looked that hard).

Now, if my wife (or anyone else) had actual proof or I actually saw something that proved my previous HARD view on the subject wrong, than I have two choices:

1) Change my views and accept that I need to expand my understanding beyond my own immediate experience.

2) Keep my views and deny what I have experienced, citing some fallacy or just ignoring altogether.

These are the two options. I believe that I would choose one, but who knows. Maybe the idea of supernatural existence is too much for me to mentally handle and I shore up the old mind vault against intrusion by remaining in denial.

In either case, while I don't believe in ghosts, I am open to the idea that I am wrong, despite being VERY sure I am not. It's ok to push back when you think you are right, but it's important to understand you are not possibly right about everything you "know."

Hell, I still fuck up "advance" vs. "retard" every time I time a bike, despite "knowing" how to time. As such I read EVERY timing post on here just to keep learning.

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YIKES. i feel so bad for people that have to interact with PRR on a daily basis

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Dude I got the PRR hard, like if paul rudd is in an ad on the sidebar of someones webpage, any office in the building, I know.

Paul Rudd Radar is lvl 100

I can also PRR pretty well for paul rudd, who I think should be vindicated - it's totally justifiable to shred your cock off watching porns

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punkrock randy /

> Chris Szuba Wrote:

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> YIKES. i feel so bad for people that have to interact with PRR on a

> daily basis

You get off the teet and move outta your ’rents house yet?

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Paul Rudd Radar should have this on the scope:

https://www.nextforautism.org/current-events/color-the-spectrum/

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> Jimmy ,Will gets really lost.in his world now and then.....he

> will.explain racism that way one time and a month later tell it the way

> you did.....racism can be against.any color or nationality.

This is true. Reverse hate(racism) is a reality, though less publicized.

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^ REAL hate for you, and it is not color based, it is idiot based, go back to where you were, seriously, go live what is left of your racist life elsewhere. Fuck off Don Ohio! Fuck off, maybe your "god" loves you, you better hope so, as no one else does. You are a garbage human.

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