1980 Honda express NC50

I am restoring a 1980 Honda express NC50 moped. I have a bunch of rust in the tank so I can finally get it to run if I clean the carb and the oil mixer. However have to do that every time I want to get it to run. So at this time I believe I either need to try and restore the tank or try to find one better then what I have. Any recommendations?

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The first gen are notoriously rusted out between the gas and oil tanks from within. Drain both and clean out gas and oil with a solvent. Then fill with your favorite de rusting agent. I like phosphoric acid but it can still take several days of soaking depending on condition of tank.

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You are only de rusting the fuel tank. No need to put anything in oil tank. If at any time the oil tank fills up with your de rusting fluid, then it's already rusted out.

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I put some Hydrochloric acid in the gas tank to remove the rust. When I flushed the tank to neutralize the acid I did notice a little getting into the oil side of the tank. So I am thinking of doing the same thing on the oil side and then coating both sides with Red-Kote.

I see a few tanks online however can't really tell if they are any better then the one I have.

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If yer using brick cleaners' acid(usually Hydrochloric,Muriatic), cut it at LEAST 3 water to one acid. It will still do the job. Let it sit for a few hours.

Neutralize the tank with baking soda and then final flush with water, dry it out and spray WD40 in there to coat it.

But first add gas to see if it's leaking thru to oil tank.

Keep pure water or a hose around for your eye protection.

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I have the tank clean and coated with red-kote. I did do both the gas and oil side as there is leakage there. So until I can find a solid tank I will have to premix my gas. I put gas in the tank let it sit a few days and drained the tank. Did filter the gas and no rust!! What ratio should I mix the gas and oil? Also what’s the best way to post a video on this post? I have it running and am excited to show it off. Been a 3 year project and just happy to see her run!

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Glad you got it going, I have to do the same to mine, but at least the oil tank is not leaking, I would go 32:1 on the mix, but that's just me, I like a little extra lube, 40: 50:1 would prob be fine as well.

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> Mark Kieper Wrote:

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> I put some Hydrochloric acid in the gas tank to remove the rust. When I

> flushed the tank to neutralize the acid I did notice a little getting

> into the oil side of the tank. So I am thinking of doing the same thing

> on the oil side and then coating both sides with Red-Kote.

>

> I see a few tanks online however can't really tell if they are any

> better then the one I have.

Good job! Make sure you pre-mix with quality 2-stroke oil. NOT weed trimmer oil.

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Pushrod Fifty /

You still have rust in it or you need to add enough coats to cover the sripped out rust spots. Figure 3 coats to make it last.

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I ended up finding a tank that didn’t leak between the oil and gas. Did the same thing with RedKote just to help protect it and make it last.

All is good with this classic however if I ride it full throttle for about 10 minutes it will die. It normally will start right back up however thinking it must be a gas issue. Wonder if the peacock is clogged with a little rust from the old tank. Might try to clean that up or just replace it

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Damn Peacocks, always messing with mopeds...lol, one thing to check, the gas tank has a close-able vent on it, is this open AND flowing air? Try running it without the gas cap for a bit. My Hobbit pet cock has a screen in it, not gotten to my Express yet but it may as well? Clean it if it does.

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Not sure I'd expect much out of this red coat stuff .

What I see in this pic looks pretty questionable . Way too many pits that don't seem to be covered/sealed . But , Good luck with it .

Please let us know how it holds up .

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I found another tank that looks a lot better

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I found another tank that looks a lot better. Here is the new one

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> Mark Kieper Wrote:

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> I found another tank that looks a lot better. Here is the new one

Maybe the difference was the prep work ?

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