Re: PW65 Malossi with WWB ceramic bearings

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What I found with Micro Blue that made me a true believer was my CCP before and after having the coating was done to my pistons in the Race bike. I was at 220 CCP cold before and 245 CCP after, No other changes. Better ring seal due to better oil retention and keeping the piston true to its bore " line to line". As well and the skirt coating also helps promote better ring seal, which is where the Adbradable skirt coating comes in and is so bad ass, especially when using a billet aluminum piston in a cast iron cylinder, the expansion rates are so vastly different, you typically have to run huge piston to cylinder wall clearance, but with this skirt coating, I ahve them build it up to be over tight and then hone the coating down to be a perfect fit, it then breaking in under operation to be 1 consistent clearance across the whole skirt. This is not like your typical skirt coating you would find on such like wiseco from manufacture, entirely different, pretty amazing stuff. I had 2 season on my race bike pistons and the skirt coating still looked brand new. makes a huge difference when you dont get piston rock and TDC and BDC.

Also something cool, you can use the coating to cover up scuffed skirts and resure hard to find pistons as long and the lands are in good shape, L2L can build back up your skirts to be better than new.

> Graham Motzing Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> yeah thats pretty cool stuff. i've worked with TiN and DLC coatings at

> work on a few engine components where it gets used something like 'super

> duper case hardening' just giving the components a little more case

> hardness and in the case of the wrist pins slightly better performance

> in mixed-mode friction.

>

> There is a lot of stuff on the market that gets sold with some pretty

> ty spectacular claims, when i've worked with it in the past its been in

> a specific application where it was more cost effective than a redesign

> or not possible to use conventional stuff... but that was OEM production

> so super cost sensitive.

>

> i guess its probably a good option to use some coating on the cast iron,

> but most moped folks go to a nikasil kit for high performance stuff,

> along with a 1.5mm single ring instead of the double heavy cast iron

> rings in the malossi. Also the single ring weighs less and seals up

> better at high rpm so you got that going for you.

>

> what is the class you guys are running? how far is the distance? i

> didn't even realize there was such a thing as junior motorcycle drag

> racing, probably a lot of moped tech that could apply. they sprint race

> these things in europe, guys like OVC and PSR have youtube vids of some

> scary fast straight line mopeds.

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  PW65 Malossi with WWB ceramic bearingsTopic by: mat hormell mat hormell 08/14/19 05:59PM
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