Re: Stage6 MK1 Peugeot Engine

Woble, Woble, Woble

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Rebuild time!

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> L ee Wrote:

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> Rebuild time!

How long did it last?

Way to much weight on the end!

Flip the er3 and change out the massive rod

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Lasted all of 3 blocks!

Doppler endurance crank, Yellow doppler spring, 15lb gas strut, no variator weights. Not sure where the rear pulley is grabbing around 6K I'd guess?

I know some people seemed to have this from high stall rear pulleys... Might modify this one to take it easy for next time til I get it dialed in.

Not sure if this is a fluke er it really did bend it that easily but uh I'll try again and see what happens. I'll inspect more closely during the rebuild.

Inverting the ER3 is on the agenda, and might be a must to get this thing going right.

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3 blocks!? Holyshit (edited)

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Yikes bummer dude, hope the artek works out better for ya!! btw i don’t think this was the issue, but didja balance the er3 variator arms before ya ran it? I feel like it’s a good step on a build this detailed, and I’ve seen em be like 2 grams apart from e/o before

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> Yikes bummer dude, hope the artek works out better for ya!! btw i don’t

> think this was the issue, but didja balance the er3 variator arms before

> ya ran it? I feel like it’s a good step on a build this detailed, and

> I’ve seen em be like 2 grams apart from e/o before

Good think... Imma check that out.

Yea I'll give the artek a shot see what happens!

Did you ever try out that flange style intake?

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> Yea I'll give the artek a shot see what happens!

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> Did you ever try out that flange style intake?

If artek's boxes are anything to go by, they're super quality!! Seriously, why is it so hard to find a moped crank that isn't thrown into a box that's waaaaay too big for it with no padding? The only kinda funky thing I've ever run into is that the threading on the variator side can be finicky with the nut that comes with er3's. I go by hand as long as I can before glockin' it on there with the impact and it hasn't stripped on me yet.

Not yet, waiting on a carb to come in for it! The malossi cases seem to be suspiciously close to AM6 and gila intakes tho, so maybe some hackery to be found there? Will def keep you updated when I do end up goin for it. (edited)

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> If artek's boxes are anything to go by, they're super quality!!

> Seriously, why is it so hard to find a moped crank that isn't thrown

> into a box that's waaaaay too big for it with no padding? The only kinda

> funky thing I've ever run into is that the threading on the variator

> side can be finicky with the nut that comes with er3's. I go by hand as

> long as I can before glockin' it on there with the impact and it hasn't

> stripped on me yet.

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Artek's are my favorite French crank, Moby or Peugeot. Doppler cranks suck, Ive had spacing issues with them, misshapen lobes, Malossi is nice but pricey, Airsals have been good to me, but Artek's have been the hands down best, hopefully it will solve your problem

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100th post

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> Doppler cranks suck, Ive had spacing issues with them

Did this happen with the teknix cases in particular? I think they’re using a mold for spx cases and labeling them as 103...

Any other hot takes on those cases? Bump with a stage6 28mm pwk shoved in a malossi subframe:

Also great post rocco, real insightful addition to the discourse there.

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> Did this happen with the teknix cases in particular? I think they’re

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> Any other hot takes on those cases? Bump with a stage6 28mm pwk shoved

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> Also great post rocco, real insightful addition to the discourse there.

Dude chill out it was one post!

The Bikes Is to powerful, that shit is crazy! It was cool.

Maybe if you made a support for the variator it wouldn’t bend!

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> > Doppler cranks suck, Ive had spacing issues with them

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> Did this happen with the teknix cases in particular? I think they’re

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> Any other hot takes on those cases? Bump with a stage6 28mm pwk shoved

> in a malossi subframe:

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> Also great post rocco, real insightful addition to the discourse there.

Nice!!!

I had to shave the idle adjuster to get it right, but that's pretty normal pug stuff. The metal mesh air filter fits too so that's cool. Can you fully variate without the carb hitting the frame? I put a pretty small 90 on mine but might still see issues. We will see.

Rebuild in progress...

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Oh yeah, def ground down the idle screw. Also had to trim down one side of the flange mount that was giving the frame a lil rub, but once I had the belt on it sat in a p nice spot. I’ve got the malossi 90 degree on there and haven’t noticed any topping out, but that might be cause I’m working w/ a tsm and 330mm long rear shocks... I know the bing adjuster is p short, worked well on my Grand Prix build. Good luck on the rebuild, hope that thing gets to its full ripper potential!

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Rebuilt with Artek crank and HPI.

Ran it without variator weights, screamed pretty good down block. Actually was pretty scary when the pipe hit, wanted to lift the front wheel.

Ended up unwinding the variator nut and the fun was over.

Planned on getting a nord-lock washer to keep that sucker on there.

Belt alignment at full variation is off though, going to need to space out the variator further from the engine. Looks like the variator nut doesn't have many threads to hold on with proper spacing though.

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you can cut back the malossi swingarm some, I used a spot facing cutter and custom guide pin to make sure it's square.

Might I add, it might not be a bad idea to add some mass to that hpi mini rotor. Probably going to fatigue that crank pretty quick and snap the drive side off.

https://www.treatland.tv/HPI-mini-rotor-flywheel-weight-300-grams-p/rvs-plate-2ten-210v257.htm

-naz

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> Did this happen with the teknix cases in particular? I think they’re

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No, I had the issue on some aftermarket av7 cases that I always use, swapped the crank to old stock av7 had the same issue, then spacing issues on a Doppler crank while using Polini cases for MBK? Could have been a 103....cant remember off the top of my head, all I know is I got an old Doppler crank, like 10 years old, never installed, that baby fit perfect, it was the modern casting that gave me issues

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Thank you Naz fer yer advice.

Took keyed washer ~1.5mm for variator space out with still giving good threads and ground the swingarm down to get belt alignment at full variation really close to straight.

Test ride and bam, flywheel nut fell off... So put a lock washer on that side too!

Going to put the bike through some paces this weekend see how it does. Currently running pretty rich but figured that's fine for now.

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Bikes goes fast! Took er up to 50 mph without much issue.

Hits powerband and takes off!

Probably will go faster but I got leary!

Anyways, I'd say the engine tests out and is ready to go.

Needs some further refinement (running extra rich, variator is okay, experiencing some spring bounce when revving down).

Going to focus on upgrading suspension and brakes now. Then fairings...

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Do you know what kind of rpms you are seeing with that Doppler exhaust?

That cylinder should rev to 14000+.

Curious of the effect the pipe would have on that cylinder.

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> Do you know what kind of rpms you are seeing with that Doppler exhaust?

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> That cylinder should rev to 14000+.

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> Curious of the effect the pipe would have on that cylinder.

Not yet, I have a Vapor tech I'll be hooking up which should give an idea. I think the hobbit guys are seeing about 13K.

Not sure how high the doppler pipe will let me go. I did add a small bit to the header to angle it properly. I'd have to measure if my adaptor piece made the header overall longer than the original. But right now the pipe hits right around 8K/9K? (based on clutch pulley grab estimate) which sounds about right.

Definitely something I'll report back on though.

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So much sex on this build.

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Upgrade the brakes??? Dual discs aren’t enough? What’s your plans to upgrade? Stainless lines?

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> Upgrade the brakes??? Dual discs aren’t enough? What’s your plans to

> upgrade? Stainless lines?

Rear brake actually doesn't have a caliper at the moment so that would be said 'upgrade'. Also these forks dive pretty good when getting on the front brake so plan is to run some hydros. Not sure if I'd do SS lines or not...

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Stainless lines are cheap on amazon (they take forever to get here because ya know, cheap china stuff) but it made a good difference on my rear disc. The rubber lines only brake so hard before the line starts expanding. The stainless helped me get more grabbing power out my cheap “dual piston”

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Oops, should of checked to see if this had the renforcement brace...

Good thing I have a replacement!

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Slow progress here, I got rid of the k10 forks and got sum EBR hydros. Weird thing, headtube must of been cut down by PO. Had to space it out to get the threads not bottom out. Maybe the puch version would have been better?

Spacer should add rake to the bike but EBRs are adjustable so I'm not too worried about the geometry change.

Also got some clip ons that Maize made while back!

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The majority of my time has been making this disc brake hub adaptor.

Actually came across a cheap 'mini' lathe so I've been keeping busy with Quarantine by re-learning how to use one. Haven't used one since high school. Waiting for the vertical mill attachment as well which should be fun if it ever arrives.

Anyways 3D printed a mock up, and am turning down some 7075 AL to make the piece.

I could of just used different wheels that would of been easier to adapt a disc to but what's the fun in that?

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Don't leave the chuck key in the chuck.

Looks good.

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