Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

♣Slew Foot♣ /

Nitro methonal graphite or BUCKYBALLS cast iron nikisal cyl extreme cooling head chrome iron w expander rammed air compressed.blower supercharger with backscaveged enriched with no2 before recharging the combustion chamber. The thing would make excellent espresso. 9 to 11 bars 4 x the normalpressure. But would do 2 races or 2 pots of expresso before becoming a shrapnel bomb get the Kevlar wwraps on pistons going through the expressoachine...

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

♣Slew Foot♣ /

Btw watch it you'll shoot yer eye out kid....

Harrr hah

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

Why not?

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

♣Slew Foot♣ /

Whipped cream and steamed milk froth a tad too much 2t but it is an acquired taste...

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

♣Slew Foot♣ /

Heck my batavus with an over square 42.5 13 14 sha modded with a exhaust leak put it a 60 mph till it seize d at idle.at a stoplight need cooling

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

Dirty30 Dillon /

> Bruce Edwards Wrote:

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> No one should post here unless they have read it from the very

> beginning. That would eliminate a lot of stupid, annoying and uninformed

> posts.

This is laughable

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

whats the update here i want some pix

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

Bruce Edwards /

> Dickie Thompson Wrote:

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> whats the update here i want some pix

Dickie,

I will post when I have something.

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

ok, now we at 60mph 13mm batavus. I'm so down for this thread.

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

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> Bruce Edwards Wrote:

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> I have a 2003 Kinetic TFR. I am putting a high flow air filter, a highly

> modded 12.12 stock Dellorto carburetor, a 43mm/65cc DR piston and sleeve

> kit and a Techno Circuit Exhaust. My engine tuner believes that he can

> get a solid 9 hp with his vast experience with building racing engines.

> What do you think?

If you had any confidence in your "tuner" you wouldn't be here asking what "we" think. You would have kept your mouth shut and surprised everyone with the end results. (edited)

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

I just wanna see dyno pulls

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

Dadon Martino /

I don't think your tuner will reach 9 hp with that kind of setup. Even with all the modding/tuning etc. But hey i love to see different. You might be interested in the following graph.

CittaGraph.jpg

The lowest score is from a complete stock Piaggio Ciao which over her in Europe has a 12/10 SHA carburettor. The other 3 graphs where from the 3 best exhausts we tested on the following engine; Polini Evolution cases with 19mm Carb, 43mm DR Evolution, Polini high compression cylinder head and a stock pointer ignition.

Although these where all slap on parts and nothing fancy had been done to tune this engine. Only with these 3 types of exhausts the engine hit just over 5 HP on a Dynojet. Anyway these scores will give you perhaps any idea what to aim for.

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

Bruce Edwards /

^^^^ Thanks Dandon Martino. Do you have a suggestion on a Coil? I'm leaning towards the Emco. It's the red one. That,the Trailtech voltage regulator and the stock CDI unless someone has has a better suggestion.

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

Dirty30 Dillon /

Just use the stock regulator

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

Bruce Edwards /

Ok, stock regulator it is thanks.

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

Bruce Edwards /

Has anyone else welded in the combustion chamber to raise the compression to around 13 to 1. That's much like a diesel engine and the spark plug acts kinda like a glow plug.

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

Joe Schuitema /

Many watercooled scooter kits are around 11:1. The expansion pipe does the rest of the squeezing. Keep in mind you'll need good gas and ample cooling to keep the temps down at those ratios. 13:1 would be fine if it didn't rev above 5,000 rpm.

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

> Jesse Stephenson Wrote:

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> ok, now we at 60mph 13mm batavus. I'm so down for this thread.

my sides

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

♣Slew Foot♣ /

What about the stage6 THING?

Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

> Joe Schuitema Wrote:

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> Many watercooled scooter kits are around 11:1. The expansion pipe does

> the rest of the squeezing. Keep in mind you'll need good gas and ample

> cooling to keep the temps down at those ratios. 13:1 would be fine if

> it didn't rev above 5,000 rpm.

Haha yea

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