Hobbit - jailing stator - jog cdi - timing off

Playing around w a spare motor and some jailing parts. 93 jog CDI. Great spark. It’s firing at a odd location. Blue tape is TDC and black line on flywheel is where it’s firing. Flywheel is on the only way it fits. What am I screwing up. Cheers

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Sorry for the bad pic rotation.

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Re: Hobbit - jailing stator - jog cdi - timing off

toss the woodruff key and time wherever u want. bamm.

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> pat splat Wrote:

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> toss the woodruff key and time wherever u want. bamm.

Yeah, I know......just though it would work like magic,

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> Happy Pancake Wrote:

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> > pat splat Wrote:

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> > toss the woodruff key and time wherever u want. bamm.

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> Yeah, I know......just though it would work like magic,

It will , once you time key-less .

Heck , even Jeanie has to wiggle her nose . ;) (edited)

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Tweaker trash /

Haha all the hard work is done lol! Throw that key out

TAke a piston tool set at 14 degrees before tdc and line up the sharpie marks and bolt the flywheel down !

Good work! (edited)

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Will do sir !

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timing all set. Spark firing is jumping around probably due to low voltage to the Jog CDI from the Jialing Stator. I read that the A3202 should work (i have one ordered). Anyone have luck w the Jog CDI?

Just wasting time in garage....

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> Happy Pancake Wrote:

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> timing all set. Spark firing is jumping around probably due to low

> voltage to the Jog CDI from the Jialing Stator. I read that the A3202

> should work (i have one ordered). Anyone have luck w the Jog CDI?

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> Just wasting time in garage....

Hmmm 95 volts to the CDI.

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Emil Kniemel /

I have/had the knockoff jog CDI from ebay + 1977mopeds clone CDI that worked all together with a stock honda hobbit magneto

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Thx. Tried this on from a jog. I have a couple more to try.

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Snowing outside...

Ok. Timing set. Great spark. Here’s the goofy stuff. With the plug out and connected, timing perfect. When the plug is installed, timing is way way way way off. Take the plug back out, timing perfect. Oh. Also tried several CDIs .

What did i miss here?

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Tweaker trash /

Could be one of two things

Sometimes the secondary coils don’t like the cdi box

Ur wiring looks wrong

I can post a pic later of the cdi wires labeled correctly with the blue cdi box so u can trace them back to the magneto

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Thx. Here’s how I have it wired. Spark is great! (edited)

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Tweaker trash /

> Happy Pancake Wrote:

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> Thx. Here’s how I have it wired. Spark is great!

After that I’m going to McDonald’s

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Tweaker trash /

Black with red strip goes to primary coil

White with a red strip is the trigger

Black with white strip is the kill

Orange goes to the secondary coil

Black is ground (ground off at the secondary coil)

But ur wires look way different color (edited)

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Thx. Enjoy your nuggets

I think I’m missing ground to secondary coil. I’m grounded to frame .

Cheers !

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Ground is ground.

Ground everything to the frame.

Is this running yet? You need to time this at like 23 deg btdc. It starts there then will retard down to 18 or so which is usually safe with a decent head. This is for most Zuma jog a3202 boxes.

Don’t time with the plug out duh.

No point in checking that.

Sometimes when you check timing and don’t have a good inductive signal the light will dance a bit. So where are ya now

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Tweaker trash /

Yea the ground to coil was just a good luck charm, its what Yamaha did so I just copied them

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> JBOT Admin Wrote:

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> Ground is ground.

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> Ground everything to the frame.

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> Is this running yet? You need to time this at like 23 deg btdc. It

> starts there then will retard down to 18 or so which is usually safe

> with a decent head. This is for most Zuma jog a3202 boxes.

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> Don’t time with the plug out duh.

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> No point in checking that.

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> Sometimes when you check timing and don’t have a good inductive signal

> the light will dance a bit. So where are ya now

Will investigate tonight. May pull stator apart to check wiring.

Explain why timing cant be set/checked w/ plug not in head but connected.

Cheers

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Keep these pics here

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Well honestly I’ve never done that so maybe it’s ok but my gut says latency and compression will change shit.

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Figured I give an update. Gave up on the jailing . This flywheel may have been off a point stator

IDK. Put on a 83 hobbit stator and flywheel. Seem to work w the “blue box” well my timing light broke so I can’t check the advance. I’ll try and post different CDI box results in the future

Cheers !

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