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This crossover chart was formed to help provide a list of compatible parts between brands and models. If you come across any incorrect information please update the list.
 
This crossover chart was formed to help provide a list of compatible parts between brands and models. If you come across any incorrect information please update the list.
  
== Fuel system ==
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==Fuel system==
*Yamaha [[QT50]] and [[Honda Express NC50|NC50]] fuel valves will fit General 5 Star Lazer top tanks and Trac Sprint Top tanks.
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*Tomos and Puch frame tank gas caps are interchangable.
*[[Peugeot]] petcocks fit [[Batavus]] VA & HS50, Italian bikes such as the tube frame Concords and Cimattis, Sears Allstate Sabres, and Puch Magnum gas tanks.
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*Gas caps from Puch and Tomos removable tanks, 70's Honda dirt bikes (such as the XR75) and Mercedes Benz (Gates/Stant part number 31623) are all interchangable.
*[[Tomos]] and [[Puch Maxi]] fuel valves fit [[JCPenney Pinto]] and Swinger models.
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*Yamaha QT50 and Honda NC50 petcocks will fit General 5 Star Lazer top tanks and Trac Sprint Top tanks.
*Puch (not Magnum), Tomos, Vespa, Kinetic, and Honda all use the same fuel valve thread.
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*Peugeot petcocks fit Batavus VA & HS50, Italian bikes such as the tube frame Concords and Cimattis, Sears Allstate Sabres, and Puch Magnum/Cobra gas tanks.
*Puch [[Bing]] jets fit Tomos and Batavus [[Encarwi]] carburetors.
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*Tomos and Puch frame tanks, JC Penney Pinto and Swinger, Vespa, Kinetic and Honda Hobbit petcocks are all interchangable.
*Dellorto main jets fit Mikuni round-slide carburetors
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*Tomos Bullet and TTLX top tank gas caps fit JCPenney Pinto and Swinger models.
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==Carburetion==
*Tomos (step-through models) and Puch (step-through models) gas caps are interchangeable.
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*Vespa Dellorto SHA carburetors (12:9, 12:10, 12:12, and 13:13) are a direct fit on Batavus (Encarwi) intakes
*[[Vespa]] Dellorto SHA carburetors (12:9, 12:10, 12:12, and 13:13) are a direct fit on Batavus (Encarwi) intakes
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*Puch Bing jets fit Tomos and Batavus Encarwi carburetors.
*Peugeot 102 SP can be fitted with a Peugeot 103 petcock.
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*Dellorto main jets fit Mikuni round-slide carburetors.
*Mercedes Benz Gas and Oil Caps fit removable [[Puch]] tanks (Pinto, Swinger, [[Magnum]], Cobra, Free Spirit, Murray) as well as [[Tomos]] top tanks. (Gates/Stant part number 31623)
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*Bing 90 degree throttle cable guide/adjusters fit Dellorto SHA Carbs.
*Bing 90 degree throttle cable guide/adjusters fit Dellorto SHA Carbs
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*Rubber brake switch boots work as intake reducers for Dellorto airbox holes.
*Gas caps from 70's Honda Dirt Bikes (such as the XR75) fit the Puch Pinto, Swinger, Magnum, Cobra, Free Spirit, and Murray.  
 
  
 
==Intake==
 
==Intake==
*Peugeot 103 intake manifolds is compatible with Tomos A35 cylinders including all A35 reed valve 70cc kits. (They are a lot beefier, but shoots the intake upward. Probably need to use rubber mounting.)
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*Peugeot 103, Tomos A35, Daelim and Puch Polini intakes are all interchangable.
*The Puch [[Polini]] intake will fit Tomos [[A35]] cylinders.
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*Minarelli V1 intakes will fit Puch and Garelli horizontal cylinders.
*[[Minarelli]] V1 intakes will fit [[Puch]] and [[Garelli]] horizontal cylinders.
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*Minarelli, Garelli and Puch exhaust headers can all be used as intakes.
*A Daelim intake will fit the Tomos A35 and Puch Polini cylinders.
 
*Rubber brake switch boots work as intake reducers for Dellorto airbox holes.
 
*Motron exhaust header work as a great intake on many Puch kits.
 
 
*Honda Urban Express reeds are a bit larger and flow in a more desirable direction. Will fit NC50's with minimal case grinding.
 
*Honda Urban Express reeds are a bit larger and flow in a more desirable direction. Will fit NC50's with minimal case grinding.
*Puch intakes can be modified to fit a [[Jawa]] allowing you to use a Dellorto or Bing
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*Puch intakes can be modified to fit a Jawa allowing you to use a Dellorto or Bing.
  
 
==Cylinder==
 
==Cylinder==
*Tomos A35 and Puch [[E50]]/[[ZA50]] top ends are swappable. They have the same stroke and stud pattern. The issue is there intake and exhaust would have to be modified to work on the different cylinder.  However, Tomos cases are tapped for 7mm studs and Puch for 6mm studs.
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*Honda NC50 and PA50 top ends are interchangable.
*Puch 65cc [[Metrakit]]s can be installed on Tomos [[A55]] engines.
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*Tomos A35/A55, Puch and Derbi piston port top ends are interchangable.
*Minarelli pistons will work in a [[Demm]] cylinder.
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*Derbi piston port and pyramid reed, Tomos, Puch and Motobecane all have the same stroke.
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*Honda, Peugeot, Derbi flat reed are all really close in stroke.
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*Derbi, Honda, Puch and Tomos head bolt spacing is all close enough to not have to move the studs. Just open the holes.
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*Minarelli pistons will work in a Demm cylinder.
 
*Yamaha QT50 rings are the same dimensions and ring end type as those used on MotoGuzzi/Benelli and some Garelli pistons.
 
*Yamaha QT50 rings are the same dimensions and ring end type as those used on MotoGuzzi/Benelli and some Garelli pistons.
*40mm X 2mm FG Garelli rings will fit a [[Casal]] or a [[Zundapp]] 49 cc motor.
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*40mm X 2mm FG Garelli rings will fit a Casal or a Zundapp 49 cc motor.
*Puch Magnum rings are interchangeable with Vespa Ciao rings
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*Puch rings are interchangeable with Vespa Ciao rings.
*[[Derbi]] 40mm rings fit on [[Kreidler]] pistons.
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*Derbi 40mm rings fit on Kreidler pistons.
  
==Lighting==
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==Electrical==
 
*Most moped head lights and tail lights are cross compatible between brands.
 
*Most moped head lights and tail lights are cross compatible between brands.
*Puch ZA50 flywheel will not work on Puch E50's and vice versa, but the [[stator plate]]/[[magneto]] will.
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*Puch ZA50 flywheel will not work on Puch E50's and vice versa, but the stator plate/magneto will.
 
*6v 5" sealed beam bulbs are found on small tractors and can be found at tractor supply and auto parts stores.
 
*6v 5" sealed beam bulbs are found on small tractors and can be found at tractor supply and auto parts stores.
*The [[Sachs]] 3 wire stator fits Puch.
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*The Sachs 3 wire stator fits Puch.
 
*Tomos lighting coils will fit Puch stator plates/magnetos.
 
*Tomos lighting coils will fit Puch stator plates/magnetos.
* Puch flywheel pullers are compatible with the Ducati ignition found on the Tomos A3.
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*Puch flywheel pullers are compatible with the Ducati ignition found on the Tomos A3.
*The Sylvania H5006 bulb will fit in the [[Honda MB5]] headlight canister.
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*Kinetic CDIs will fit Vespas.
  
 
==Exhaust==
 
==Exhaust==
*Many Puch exhausts will fit Minarelli powered bikes with little modification along with [[Trac]] and [[Batavus]] motors.
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*Many Puch exhausts will fit Minarelli powered bikes with little modification along with Trac and Batavus motors.
*Tomos exhausts will fit [[Jawa]] cylinders with slight modification to the stud pattern and exhaust bracket.
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*Tomos, Minarelli, Garelli and Batavus exhausts will fit Jawa cylinders with slight modification to the stud pattern and exhaust bracket.
*Honda Express exhaust will fit a [[PA50 II|PA50]], with the side cover removed.
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*Honda Express exhaust will fit a PA50, with the side cover removed.
 
*Bumper over-riders for 60's VW bugs can be cut up to make exhaust headers for Sachs engines, but the material is very thick and will not clamp well
 
*Bumper over-riders for 60's VW bugs can be cut up to make exhaust headers for Sachs engines, but the material is very thick and will not clamp well
 
*Vespa exhausts fit Kinetic with varying stand/pedal/peg complications.
 
*Vespa exhausts fit Kinetic with varying stand/pedal/peg complications.
  
==Engine Parts==
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==Engine==
*Tomos [[A3]] and A35 crank seals are the same as Sears Allstate Compact (Puch DS60)
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*Tomos A3 and A35 crank seals are the same as Sears Allstate Compact (Puch DS60)
*Garelli NOI main bearings are the same as Puch E50, excepting the one with the snap ring.  #6203/C3
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*Garelli NOI main bearings are the same as Puch E50, excepting the one with the snap ring.  (#6203/C3)
*6203 Bearings are the same ones used in Laura [[M48]], Puch [[E50]] and all [[Jawa]] motors.
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*6203 Bearings are the same ones used in Laura M48, Puch E50 and all Jawa motors.
*Honda motors from the same era are somewhat interchangeable. For example, the top end is interchangeable between the [[Honda Express NC50|Express]] and the [[Honda PA50 II|PA50]]
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*Peugeot 103 bearings fit Puch ZA50 cases.
*Peugeot flywheel pullers will work on Jawa 210 clutches
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*Motobecane bearings fit Honda Hobbit cases.
*Vespa engine parts are inter-changeable with Kinetic.
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*Vespa engine parts are interchangeable with Kinetic.
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==Transmission==
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*Peugeot flywheel pullers will work on Jawa 210 clutches.
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*Minarelli clutch bells fit KTM50 clutches, which are the same taper as Puch clutches.
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*Peugeot 103 clutch pulleys fit on Motobecanes.
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*Motobecane clutchless variators fit on Puch cranks.
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==Frame==
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*JC Penny Pinto, Swinger, Puch Kromag, Magnum and Murray all use the same sidecovers.
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*Peugeot, Motobecanes and Honda Hobbits all have very similar fork headtube lengths.
  
 
==Other Stuff==
 
==Other Stuff==
*JC Penny Pinto, Swinger, Puch [[Kromag]], Magnum, Murray Puch all use the same sidecovers.
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*Batavus integrated speedometer and headlight assembly will work on most mopeds.
 
 
*HURET speedometers are used on such brands as Garelli, Morini, Motobecane and Puch.
 
*HURET speedometers are used on such brands as Garelli, Morini, Motobecane and Puch.
*Yamaha QT50 brakes will fit a United Angel (Peugeot copy)
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*Yamaha QT50 brakes will fit a United Angel (Peugeot copy).
*Peugeot 103 Pulleys fit on [[Motobecanes]] (ditch the crappy moby switch)
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*The pedal crank/sprocket from the Jawa 207 will  fit a Puch Maxi, but it will require shimming, and the actual crank on the exhaust side will be too shallow to clear the exhaust.  Instead, one can use a Maxi crank on the exhaust side, and with proper shimming, clearance is increased on that side by well over an inch.  This might be helpful if you have a large exhaust and clearance issues.
*The pedal crank/sprocket from the [[Jawa]] 207 will  fit a Puch Maxi, but it will require shimming, and the actual crank on the exhaust side will be too shallow to clear the exhaust.  Instead, one can use a Maxi crank on the exhaust side, and with proper shimming, clearance is increased on that side by well over an inch.  This might be helpful if you have a large exhaust and clearance issues.
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*[[Tomos]] A3 (perhaps a35 as well?) side covers will mount up nicely to a [[Columbia]] stamped frame. New holes will need to be drilled and a minimal amount of bending and trimming might be necessary but the fit is surprising.
 
*Most Vespa drive train parts are inter-changeable with Kienetic.
 
*Kinetic CDIs fit in Vespa points style cases, and vice versa.
 
  
 
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[[Category: Modification Tutorials]]
 
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Revision as of 10:15, 5 February 2010

This crossover chart was formed to help provide a list of compatible parts between brands and models. If you come across any incorrect information please update the list.

Fuel system

  • Tomos and Puch frame tank gas caps are interchangable.
  • Gas caps from Puch and Tomos removable tanks, 70's Honda dirt bikes (such as the XR75) and Mercedes Benz (Gates/Stant part number 31623) are all interchangable.
  • Yamaha QT50 and Honda NC50 petcocks will fit General 5 Star Lazer top tanks and Trac Sprint Top tanks.
  • Peugeot petcocks fit Batavus VA & HS50, Italian bikes such as the tube frame Concords and Cimattis, Sears Allstate Sabres, and Puch Magnum/Cobra gas tanks.
  • Tomos and Puch frame tanks, JC Penney Pinto and Swinger, Vespa, Kinetic and Honda Hobbit petcocks are all interchangable.

Carburetion

  • Vespa Dellorto SHA carburetors (12:9, 12:10, 12:12, and 13:13) are a direct fit on Batavus (Encarwi) intakes
  • Puch Bing jets fit Tomos and Batavus Encarwi carburetors.
  • Dellorto main jets fit Mikuni round-slide carburetors.
  • Bing 90 degree throttle cable guide/adjusters fit Dellorto SHA Carbs.
  • Rubber brake switch boots work as intake reducers for Dellorto airbox holes.

Intake

  • Peugeot 103, Tomos A35, Daelim and Puch Polini intakes are all interchangable.
  • Minarelli V1 intakes will fit Puch and Garelli horizontal cylinders.
  • Minarelli, Garelli and Puch exhaust headers can all be used as intakes.
  • Honda Urban Express reeds are a bit larger and flow in a more desirable direction. Will fit NC50's with minimal case grinding.
  • Puch intakes can be modified to fit a Jawa allowing you to use a Dellorto or Bing.

Cylinder

  • Honda NC50 and PA50 top ends are interchangable.
  • Tomos A35/A55, Puch and Derbi piston port top ends are interchangable.
  • Derbi piston port and pyramid reed, Tomos, Puch and Motobecane all have the same stroke.
  • Honda, Peugeot, Derbi flat reed are all really close in stroke.
  • Derbi, Honda, Puch and Tomos head bolt spacing is all close enough to not have to move the studs. Just open the holes.
  • Minarelli pistons will work in a Demm cylinder.
  • Yamaha QT50 rings are the same dimensions and ring end type as those used on MotoGuzzi/Benelli and some Garelli pistons.
  • 40mm X 2mm FG Garelli rings will fit a Casal or a Zundapp 49 cc motor.
  • Puch rings are interchangeable with Vespa Ciao rings.
  • Derbi 40mm rings fit on Kreidler pistons.

Electrical

  • Most moped head lights and tail lights are cross compatible between brands.
  • Puch ZA50 flywheel will not work on Puch E50's and vice versa, but the stator plate/magneto will.
  • 6v 5" sealed beam bulbs are found on small tractors and can be found at tractor supply and auto parts stores.
  • The Sachs 3 wire stator fits Puch.
  • Tomos lighting coils will fit Puch stator plates/magnetos.
  • Puch flywheel pullers are compatible with the Ducati ignition found on the Tomos A3.
  • Kinetic CDIs will fit Vespas.

Exhaust

  • Many Puch exhausts will fit Minarelli powered bikes with little modification along with Trac and Batavus motors.
  • Tomos, Minarelli, Garelli and Batavus exhausts will fit Jawa cylinders with slight modification to the stud pattern and exhaust bracket.
  • Honda Express exhaust will fit a PA50, with the side cover removed.
  • Bumper over-riders for 60's VW bugs can be cut up to make exhaust headers for Sachs engines, but the material is very thick and will not clamp well
  • Vespa exhausts fit Kinetic with varying stand/pedal/peg complications.

Engine

  • Tomos A3 and A35 crank seals are the same as Sears Allstate Compact (Puch DS60)
  • Garelli NOI main bearings are the same as Puch E50, excepting the one with the snap ring. (#6203/C3)
  • 6203 Bearings are the same ones used in Laura M48, Puch E50 and all Jawa motors.
  • Peugeot 103 bearings fit Puch ZA50 cases.
  • Motobecane bearings fit Honda Hobbit cases.
  • Vespa engine parts are interchangeable with Kinetic.

Transmission

  • Peugeot flywheel pullers will work on Jawa 210 clutches.
  • Minarelli clutch bells fit KTM50 clutches, which are the same taper as Puch clutches.
  • Peugeot 103 clutch pulleys fit on Motobecanes.
  • Motobecane clutchless variators fit on Puch cranks.

Frame

  • JC Penny Pinto, Swinger, Puch Kromag, Magnum and Murray all use the same sidecovers.
  • Peugeot, Motobecanes and Honda Hobbits all have very similar fork headtube lengths.

Other Stuff

  • HURET speedometers are used on such brands as Garelli, Morini, Motobecane and Puch.
  • Yamaha QT50 brakes will fit a United Angel (Peugeot copy).
  • The pedal crank/sprocket from the Jawa 207 will fit a Puch Maxi, but it will require shimming, and the actual crank on the exhaust side will be too shallow to clear the exhaust. Instead, one can use a Maxi crank on the exhaust side, and with proper shimming, clearance is increased on that side by well over an inch. This might be helpful if you have a large exhaust and clearance issues.