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Special thanks to 'puch rijder martijn' and Jos Dijkman for the information on the MotoPlat ignition.
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Special thanks to ''''puch rijder martijn'''' and '''Jos Dijkman''' for the information on the MotoPlat ignition.

Revision as of 07:14, 10 November 2007

This is a list of almost every ignition you can fit onto your Puch engine.

This list is sorted by price-range.


Stock Puch Maxi points ignition

The stock Puch Bosch/Iskra ignition.


Found on:


Puch Maxi

Puch Macho

Puch Z-two

Puch Cobra

Puch Magnum

Puch MV50

Puch MS50

Some Sachs 504 and 505 engines.


Consists of (New model):


Baseplate

Flywheel

Contact-points

Condenser

Primary coil

Secondary coil

Light coil


Consists of (Old model):


Baseplate

Flywheel

Contact-points

Condenser

Ignition coil

Light coil


+ Cheap

+ Reliable (if maintained well)

+ Easy to tune

+ Easy to install

+ Good light coil (6v 17W)

- Contact-points (Sometimes not very reliable)

- Moisture sensitive

- Doesn't work well above 12.000 RPM

- Heavy flywheel (Bad throttle response)


Special points of interest:


There are cheap imitation coils, contact-points and condensers available.


Original Bosch parts are also available. Original Bosch is preferred over imitation, especially with contact-points and condensers.


There are 2 diffrent versions of this ignition:

The newer version: Primary coil -> Secondary coil -> Sparkplug

The older version: Ignition coil -> Sparkplug


Puch Z-one CDI Ignition

The original Ducati CDI ignition for Puch Z-one.


Consists of:

Baseplate

Flywheel

Primary coil

Secondary coil

CDI

Light coil


+ CDI ignition (No contact-points)

+ Works well above 12.000 RPM

+ Very good light coil (12v 35W)

- Doesn't seem to last very long

- Hard to tune

- Heavy flywheel (Poor throttle response)


Special points of interest:


Was only stock on Puch Z-one


Sparcon contact-points replacement

Ign1.jpg


A sort of module that attaches to the baseplate to replace condenser and contact-points.


+ No contact-points

+ Works above 12.000 RPM

- Doesn't seem to last very long

- Not tuneable


Special points of interest:


One of a kind. Doesn't work with every engine the way it should.


Price is around $100 which is a lot for a device that doesn't work with every setup.

HPI CDI Inner-rotor

Ign2.jpg Ign3.jpg


HPI 2005

Horse Power Ignition inner-rotor with "curve"*


Consists of:

Rotor

Stator

Coil

CDI

Light coil (optional)


+ Works up to 18.000 RPM

+ Is moisture resistant

+ CDI ignition

+ Easy to install

+ Light flywheel (Better throttle response)

+ Curve

- Expensive

- No lights (There is a light coil available, but it delivers just 12v 10W. Barely enough to run lights)

- Hard to tune precise

- Parts that can break are expensive


Special points of interest:


Only ignition with curve for Puch.


  • Curve means that it has a programmed CDI that delays the ignition when the RPM rises. This ensures that you have good low-end and high-end power.

Selletra analog CDI inner-rotor

Consists of:

Stator

Rotor

Coil

CDI

Baseplate


+ Works up to 18.000 RPM

+ Is moisture resistant (Plastic plated stator, coil & CDI)

+ Light flywheel (Better throttle response)

+ CDI

+ Quality, finish and fit

- Not meant for Puch (It's meant for Piaggio & Minarelli. It does fit Puch)

- Expensive

- No light coil

- No curve* (Analog, does not delay the ignition timing)

- Hard to tune


Special points of interest:


Not meant for Puch, but for scooters.


Brand:


Italkit Selletra

Malossi Selletra

TNT Selletra


They are basicly all the same.

  • Only Malossi has an Eprom. That's a self-programmable CDI so you can make your own curve. It is expenive however.

There's also a digital Italkit Selettra with curve, but it's a lot more expensive then the HPI.


MotoPlat Electronic Outer-rotor

Ign4.jpg Ign5.jpg


Consists of:


Rotor

Stator

External coil

Light coils


+ No contact-points

+ 2 light coils

- Heavy rotor

- 40 year old design

- Discontinued


Special points of interest:


MotoPlat has only made this ignition for a couple of years. The factory is long gone (Bankrupt).


It out-performs the stock Puch ignition, however the flywheel is kind of heavy.


This ignition doesn't have contact-points or CDI, but works with an external coil & 2 light coils.


Translated by SchijnHeilig

Original by Jorismb from PuchForum.net

Special thanks to 'puch rijder martijn' and Jos Dijkman for the information on the MotoPlat ignition.